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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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From reading here I found that I can use the better timing chain. I ordered the Cloyes chain part #9-3145. I have heard that this chain fits with no grinding in the cover. I heard that you have to fill the hole in timing chain cover with a something to cover the hole left by not using the stock gears and water pump. Some wiring and a relay for the electric water pump is needed as well. I need the regular gaskets, etc too.

Any other things I am missing? Any advice?

I have seen this site and wondered if there is anything more.
http://www.projecttransam.com/projects9.asp




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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Sounds like you've just about got it. I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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I heard that you have to fill the hole in timing chain cover with a something to cover the hole left by not using the stock gears and water pump.
A tip for filling that hole. Take it down to your local machine shop... give them the cover, and a nickel (yes.. a 5 cent piece nickel) and have them weld the nickel in place. A nickel is a perfect size, and a weld should cost you ~10-20 bucks at most.

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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Mine was larger than a nickel. Just a hair over a 50 cent peice. I got a freeze plug from Pep Boys that fit and hammered it in place.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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What will happen if you don't fill the hole?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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Oil will blow out like a slow faucet. It is an open whole in your timing cover.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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So the timing chain is actually immersed in oil?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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It doesn't look like the guy on this page:
http://www.projecttransam.com/projects9.asp
did anything to the timing cover, if you leave the old stuff in place do you need to fill the spot in the timing cover?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Electric water pump conversion checklist (konroh)

You can leave the water pump drive under the timing chain cover IF and only IF you are using the stock chain. If you go to a Cloyes double roller chain you HAVE to remove the gear drive. Most people go with the electric pump to use the double roller chain. Some people just go to the electric pump and leave the stock chain alone or use the GMPP upgrade which still allows you to leave the stock pump running gear in place.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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So the timing chain is actually immersed in oil?
Not immersed. It does have an oil flow that keeps the chain lubricated
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:cool:
I want to do a hotcam setup next winter, so maybe i will upgrade the timing gear then, for now i am staying with the stock setup and upgrading the opti to the vented style ('95+) so I am just changing the cover.

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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Electric water pump conversion checklist (ericcer)

Eric,
I don't think the electric pump will fit with the camber brace. Also, can you wait until Saturday for the measurements on the O2 sensor bungs?
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Electric water pump conversion checklist (Half Fast)

One thing that sucks with the job is that I will have to sell my Camber Brace. :cry R-D Racing is planning on making one for the electric water

Thanks for all the tips guys!

Half Fast, this weekend would be fine. Give me an email or a call.


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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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Say I found this from someone. Does this apply?

Make absolutely sure they use a special water pump driveshaft seal protector when reinstalling the timing cover.
If not the water pump driveshaft seal will get kinked causing an oil leak, slow at first, and then get worse.

The protector looks like a thimble. The GM part number is in the service manual under reinstalling timing cover.(or water pump, can't remember)
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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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Say I found this from someone. Does this apply?
Only if you are simply replacing the seal. Although before I went to the electric pump, I replaced the seal without the special tool and never had leaks.
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