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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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... Huh??? I can't laugh at the "still for sale" yet I'm still trying to figure out what you meant by problem found lol. How does the balancer affect timing?

If I put the cam gear on the crankshaft with the #1 piston up then line up the dots....what am I not seeing that you are. Like I said act like your talking to a teenager lol.

Mind you I have two college degrees, can build a house from the ground up and have an iq of 137.... Just shows you how bad our education system is lololololol. Sorry guys this cam stuff is crazy hard for me to grasp... Iv been trying for years ... I just get confused with this.
When you line it up with #1 cyclinder up the balancer has to line up too. Since it does not have a keyway it is off. Since you just had it off might be a easy fix. Loosen the center bolt the line it up at top dead center. And go enjoy your car.
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When you line it up with #1 cyclinder up the balancer has to line up too. Since it does not have a keyway it is off. Since you just had it off might be a easy fix. Loosen the center bolt the line it up at top dead center. And go enjoy your car.
AFAIK the balancer is neutral balanced, and it does not matter what direction is is on the crankshaft. On the LT1 it is not used for timing.

Anyway here are a few threads to read on the subject.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nd-keying.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-invloved.html
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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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so no need to line anything up hmmmmm learn somthing new everyday. What is a AFAIK?
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What is a AFAIK?
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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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ttt123 would you check your fuel pressure at idle with the fuel pressure reg. vac. hose attached and unattached also what does the fuel pressure do when you snap the throttle? when I hear of a pop from the throttle makes me think lean off idle condition. Good luck!
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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Hey guys i have searched high and low for my cam card and i cant find it

can someone help me find this cam card online? maybe someone has a website they know of that would have the info. i've done a search and having no luck.

809-24502586 is the cam #

this is the link to the kit i bought.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Chevrolet-Perf...oductId=753463
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:21 AM
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Here you go with the specs:
http://www.gmassie.net/13secss/lt4_hot_cam_specs.html

Now your link is to a 95 part number. Your car is, I believe a 94. Do note what it says in this link about the small dowel in the front of the cam that drives the Opti. It changed either between 94/95 or 95/96. If you have the wrong part, you can replace just the dowel but it is not as easy as it says in this link. I had to use heat to get my switched out.

It has been 18 years since I had a head/cam 94 and I built my 93 383s in 96 so my memory is hazy on the exact dates of the change but if you are trying to drive an opti that is looking for a cam with a longer dowel (they are about 1/4 inch different) with a cam that has a short dowel you aren't driving the opti correctly.
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:24 AM
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Here is another interesting discussion of someone trying to degree the Hot Cam.

http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/g...4-hot-cam.html

and another degreeing discussion with the info:

http://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech-...ve-actual.html

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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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Not driving the opti. The directions for that cam had me cut the dowel short so it wouldn't interfere.
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Thanks perry. I skimmed through that thread.... I hate this car. I was so going to trade it in for a newer zo6 till this stupid cam thing ruined it.

I've watched a ton of videos on degreeing a cam. Why can't someone just show how to do it in laymens terms? Find the true top dead center then what? I'm seeing guys breaking out calculators and dividing the circumference of the moon by the velocity of a speeding train etc. I hate this car. Summer is half over and I'm still driving out minivan I have about $17k into this car and now it's just sitting under a car cover.
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well i stopped pouting about having to fix the cam and finally pulled the motor.

so a question, i purchased the lt1/lt4 hot cam kit off ebay. since I'm redoing the cam... would anyone recommend a better cam? perhaps a cc503 or ???

just a thought before i do it




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Old May 23, 2016 | 06:42 AM
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anyone know why i would have an intermittent starting issue? turn the key, everything comes on but the car wont turn over. I've wiggled the wires, checked the starter wires etc. all looks fine. the three times its done it, I've gone back about 15 minutes later and turn the key and it starts right now ... anyone experience this before?
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Old May 23, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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Vats?
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Old May 23, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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[QUOTE=ttt123;1590747266]well i stopped pouting about having to fix the cam and finally pulled the motor.

so a question, i purchased the lt1/lt4 hot cam kit off ebay. since I'm redoing the cam... would anyone recommend a better cam? perhaps a cc503 or ???

just a thought before i do it



Brian,

without re-reading the complete thread. what cube, heads, springs, rocker ratio, PR & Compression. do you currently have. what RPM & goal?? I will always purchase a billet cam. due to the standard roller cam's did have a batch Poor. LOL cores.
you currently have a hot cam. that is VERY mild. compared to other options.

who is going to re-tune?

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Old May 24, 2016 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevova
Vats?
so i just read up on this... ya sounds like it could easily be the vats system how in the world do i fix that lol

[quote=THE 383 admiral;1592273114]
Originally Posted by ttt123
well i stopped pouting about having to fix the cam and finally pulled the motor.

so a question, i purchased the lt1/lt4 hot cam kit off ebay. since I'm redoing the cam... would anyone recommend a better cam? perhaps a cc503 or ???

just a thought before i do it



Brian,

without re-reading the complete thread. what cube, heads, springs, rocker ratio, PR & Compression. do you currently have. what RPM & goal?? I will always purchase a billet cam. due to the standard roller cam's did have a batch Poor. LOL cores.
you currently have a hot cam. that is VERY mild. compared to other options.

who is going to re-tune?
admiral.. long to short .... get a bigger/better cam than i got lol

after all the work i did to my car i was really expecting to get in and feel like i was in a rocket... not so much. don't get me wrong, its fast but not scary fast. i raced two stock c5's corvettes over the weekend and beat them both initially and kept them in my mirror for a good distance but they both were gaining ground and would have passed me eventually. good thing we came up on a hill and had to let off lol

I'm very happy with everything i went with but if i was going to do it again... loyd elliot cam or cc503. the head work, port work, stall and rear end make the vette neck snapping fun and the response is incredible but... its not "fast" like i was hoping.

i never did find anyone to do a final tune on the car I'd still like to but know one around me will touch that motor. "nope I don't work on lt1's" is all i hear. i bet there is more in my set up to be had but its over my head on how to get it. I now have 800 miles on the car and its fun enough for now i guess. i would love to sell it but i cant even give that car away. which is crazy cuz its such a fun car to drive.. but the c4 seems to be the ugly red headed step child that know one likes anymore. hope your not red headed, sorry if so lol

video of it after i got it running.

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As far as tune: as popular as "Hot Cam" is I'm surprised you're unable to get a tune.

VATS- too many threads related to it. The security light is a indicator if it VATS related. When it won't start security light will stay on normally it would be off. Starting disable lasts 3 minutes when it times out security light should go out. Every time key is cycled prior to the 3 minutes timing out, the timer resets back to 3 minutes and keeps light on.
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Old May 24, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevova
As far as tune: as popular as "Hot Cam" is I'm surprised you're unable to get a tune.

VATS- too many threads related to it. The security light is a indicator if it VATS related. When it won't start security light will stay on normally it would be off. Starting disable lasts 3 minutes when it times out security light should go out. Every time key is cycled prior to the 3 minutes timing out, the timer resets back to 3 minutes and keeps light on.
Well i have a mail order tune(pcmforless) which needed help from some guys online. Than i ended having a mechanic come to the house on top of all that to help me get it running. It just feels like there is more in there to get from the motor. I cant find anyone who will tweak it in for me. Earlier in the thread i talk about in the biginning i took it to a shop who "builds 1000hp motors all day" total waste of $600 they were miles away from what the issue ended up being. If anyone know anyone near michigan with a dyno who will give me a final tune, it would be very appreciated.

As for the vats, i will read up on it. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction
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Unfortunately chasing an intermittent is a bear as it could simply be one loose wire in a thousand. Do check the resistance on the key with a multimeter. Make sure the resistor is clean. On my LT1s I regularly clean the keys. It can be that easy or so very hard. Also spend some time doing a search for VATS in LT1s. I simply have forgotten what to listen for when it is a VATS problem. For instance with a VATS problem does the fuel pump prime or does it not.

In my 93 Camaro I have a hot start problem that is similar to your cold start problem. When I try and restart the car when it is hot I get nothing when the key is turned. Nothing at all. No light, no fuel pump; no click, just nothing. Luckily with a bit of patience somewhere between the 5th and 15th try the car will turn over like new and catch immediately. So it is a bit annoying but not a real problem. My thought is that somewhere there is a near short that is exacerbated by heat. But it is not worth chasing down.

Your car sounds strong! Enjoy it.

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I've had glowing red headers only 1 time. It was because my buddy needed some work. He did an intake manifold for me. When he set the distributor back in the timing was too retard. I thought it was pretty funny that -me,the customer. Told the mechanic who is self employed what he did wrong lol
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Old May 25, 2016 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevova
The security light is a indicator if it VATS related.
That's only true for 1990 and later cars. In earlier cars the SECURITY light is not related to VATS in any way.
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