Clutch Master Cylinder Failure
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Clutch Master Cylinder Failure
Just so you'll know what it is when it happens to you...
Riding around; nothing out of the ordinary...On a downshift, the clutch pedal engages farther down than normal...Only happens once, next few shifts are OK (normal pedal)...
On the way home, the pedal "feels low"...I get home, the last downshift going into driveway is very low...
Check fluid level...there ain't any... :rolleyes:
Get a flashlight, look up under dash at firewall...Yep, there's the missing fluid... :cuss
I have an email into 18carfan now, just waiting for confirmation to order both cylinders... :sleep:
It lasted 5 years for me; no telling how long for previous owners...
[Modified by Rich B., 9:24 AM 8/21/2002]
Riding around; nothing out of the ordinary...On a downshift, the clutch pedal engages farther down than normal...Only happens once, next few shifts are OK (normal pedal)...
On the way home, the pedal "feels low"...I get home, the last downshift going into driveway is very low...
Check fluid level...there ain't any... :rolleyes:
Get a flashlight, look up under dash at firewall...Yep, there's the missing fluid... :cuss
I have an email into 18carfan now, just waiting for confirmation to order both cylinders... :sleep:
It lasted 5 years for me; no telling how long for previous owners...
[Modified by Rich B., 9:24 AM 8/21/2002]
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (Rich B.)
I have leaking fluid also. So that's where the fluid is disappearing to. :lol:
Let us know how much carfan sells the clutch slave and and master for shipped to your door.
FYI - Just read a article on replacement. The guy bleed the system by pushing the fluid from the clutch slave towards the master cylinder. He said it gets ride of the air bubbles better this way. Once the master fills up then bleed it using the normal procedure.
Go figure
:confused:
Let us know how much carfan sells the clutch slave and and master for shipped to your door.
FYI - Just read a article on replacement. The guy bleed the system by pushing the fluid from the clutch slave towards the master cylinder. He said it gets ride of the air bubbles better this way. Once the master fills up then bleed it using the normal procedure.
Go figure
:confused:
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (Rich B.)
http://www.rockauto.com/ Has kits to rebuild...will save you a bundle
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (JonM)
http://www.rockauto.com/ Has kits to rebuild...will save you a bundle
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (ConeKLR)
The guy bleed the system by pushing the fluid from the clutch slave towards the master cylinder...
I replaced/flushed all fluid about 18 months ago; hose & bottle method, had no problem. '86 has bleed screw already in "highest point" attitude...
JonM: Thanks for the link! I'm off to Advance/NAPA/AutoZone now to see about kits...I'm pretty sure no one will have them in stock :D , so I'll probably order from your link...
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (dans86)
I just bought Master and Slave...they were Wagner.(under $200 for both)
Wagner? Not Repco? I'd rather have Repco (OEM)... :(
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (Rich B.)
I put in both rebuild kits 3 years ago. No leaks since.
The replacement hyd line is routed higher on the firewall than stock '86. Probably a good thing to get it further away from the exhaust.
New line and both kits came to less than $100 + 1 evening labor.
The replacement hyd line is routed higher on the firewall than stock '86. Probably a good thing to get it further away from the exhaust.
New line and both kits came to less than $100 + 1 evening labor.
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (Rich B.)
I just pulled both cylinders and hyd line.
For those interested :sleep: , the easiest way was to pull wheel; remove rear wheelwell; remove battery. Unbolt cruise servo; let hang. Unbolt strut; let hang.
Undo hyd line at master; undo two 13mm master bolts. Use 2x4 between seat track & pedal to push pedal to firewall. I could now reach in to firewall opening (from under hood) and pry rod off stud. Remove master.
Reach down next to steering shaft and remove hydraulic line clip bolt.
Go underneath, pull rubber boot out of bellhousing; undo hyd line; undo two 15mm slave bolts. Remove slave; remove hyd line.
Try and find cylinders or kits locally; impossible.
Think about supper...And Braves baseball... :yesnod:
[Modified by Rich B., 5:11 PM 8/21/2002]
For those interested :sleep: , the easiest way was to pull wheel; remove rear wheelwell; remove battery. Unbolt cruise servo; let hang. Unbolt strut; let hang.
Undo hyd line at master; undo two 13mm master bolts. Use 2x4 between seat track & pedal to push pedal to firewall. I could now reach in to firewall opening (from under hood) and pry rod off stud. Remove master.
Reach down next to steering shaft and remove hydraulic line clip bolt.
Go underneath, pull rubber boot out of bellhousing; undo hyd line; undo two 15mm slave bolts. Remove slave; remove hyd line.
Try and find cylinders or kits locally; impossible.
Think about supper...And Braves baseball... :yesnod:
[Modified by Rich B., 5:11 PM 8/21/2002]
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (ConeKLR)
Let us know how much carfan sells the clutch slave and and master for shipped to your door...
There's a bit of confusion as to what master I have (new style or old), so I need to verify first... :sad:
I may do like Hendej says, and try the repair kits...I already have a new hyd line ready to go in...
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (C4-Wolf)
My clutch slave is leaking. What all comes with the repair kit?
...But the bore of my master cylinder has more than a little pitting, so it looks like I'm in for new cylinders... :sad:
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (Rich B.)
...But the bore of my master cylinder has more than a little pitting, so it looks like I'm in for new cylinders... :sad:
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Re: Clutch Master Cylinder Failure (C4-Wolf)
At those prices I'll probably do the same rather than risk the extra downtime.
NAPA had $130 & $107 I think it was...
Both had kits for ~$29 & ~$12...
