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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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my 91 6sp has sat in storage for about 5 years and now no start.
had vats issue that is now fixed had 1 Injector out of spec. now replaced.
drained and replaced fuel. It will run with happy juice up her snout. no codes in pcm or ccm. node light flashes during cranking at each injector.
good fuel pressure at the rail. injector ground is at 0.1 ome from ecm connector to battery ground any body got ideas?
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Originally Posted by L98 DRIVER
my 91 6sp has sat in storage for about 5 years and now no start.
had vats issue that is now fixed had 1 Injector out of spec. now replaced.
drained and replaced fuel. It will run with happy juice up her snout. no codes in pcm or ccm. node light flashes during cranking at each injector.
good fuel pressure at the rail. injector ground is at 0.1 ome from ecm connector to battery ground any body got ideas?
Dave,
The next thing I would do is replace all 8 injectors with Bosch III's from Jon at FIC https://secure.fuelinjectorconnectio...il-orings.html. I'd be willing to bet your originals are gummed-up and sealed at the tips. 5 years in storage can cause a LOT of damage. I assume they are original Multecs?
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Last week my car was cranking but not starting was battery 10,39 dcv, is your ok?
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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injectors and owner are originals. battery is not, it is at 12.5V
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Originally Posted by L98 DRIVER
injectors and owner are originals. battery is not, it is at 12.5V
Surely battery is good condition
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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Dave,
The next thing I would do is replace all 8 injectors with Bosch III's from Jon at FIC https://secure.fuelinjectorconnectio...il-orings.html. I'd be willing to bet your originals are gummed-up and sealed at the tips. 5 years in storage can cause a LOT of damage. I assume they are original Multecs?
Mick
Any other ideas before I pull the trigger on some new injectors?
What say you my panel of experts
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Yes. Check your fuel pressure, before you replace injectors.
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Any other ideas before I pull the trigger on some new injectors?
What say you my panel of experts
The chepest thing you can try to replace is the coil...there is ICM too

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Originally Posted by Christi@n
The chepest thing you can try to replace is the coil...there is ICM too
Noooo....the CHEAPEST thing you can do is diagnose the problem.

Especially in this case, the OP stated in the first post:
Originally Posted by L98 Driver
It will run with happy juice up her snout
That means that it has spark, and randomly buying ICM's and Coils would be a complete waste of money. That the car runs on ether, shows us that it has spark...problem is lack of fuel.

OP should check his fuel pressure.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Noooo....the CHEAPEST thing you can do is diagnose the problem.

Especially in this case, the OP stated in the first post:
That means that it has spark, and randomly buying ICM's and Coils would be a complete waste of money. That the car runs on ether, shows us that it has spark...problem is lack of fuel.

OP should check his fuel pressure.
Excuseme guys i didn't really understand that "t will run with happy juice up her snout" meant to have spark

This case no need coil
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Originally Posted by Christi@n
Excuseme guys i didn't really understand that "t will run with happy juice up her snout" meant to have spark

This case no need coil
"happy juice" is starting fluid. If the engine runs when starting fluid is sprayed into the intake then the ignition system is OK.
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Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
"happy juice" is starting fluid. If the engine runs when starting fluid is sprayed into the intake then the ignition system is OK.
Got it

Thank you
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I would pull a few of the spark plugs out and see if they wet or dry.

If dry and the noid light is flashing , then the injector is gummed up and not opening.

I had this issue with 2 injectors.

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My 91 had same type issue cranked but no start. Went thru ignition system all new parts, went thru fuel system (new injectors from FIC) still no change, all new sensors still no start. Ended up being a clogged catalytic convertor. Replace with new Y pipe and single high flow cat. Between this and all new ignition/fuel system runs great. Mine had sat for about 3 years in original owners garage, 77,000 miles.
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