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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 01:35 AM
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On a 1984 Vette with Delco/Bose system, do you need any interface cable or anything if you just replace the head unit? I had installed a Pioneer cd receiver on my 84 many years ago and it was working, sold the car and just got it back and the unit was making a lot of noise and worked only on occasion, then stopped working. Today I tried the Delco again and it worked for a few moments then nothing, I found evidence of maybe coffee or soda on the Pioneer, I wonder if liquid could have damaged anything. By the way there are only three plugs from the car harness that go into the radio and another one that maybe illumination also. The Pioneer has a harness that plugs into those four plugs, that is why I think that no interface is needed for this car but I am not 100% sure of that. Crutchfield says that they don't have anything for this car, I was wondering about the Bose relay in the car if it is damaged. On my 98 C-5 I installed a Pioneer unit and needed an interface to keep the Bose speakers, well that was kind of a long write up. If anybody can help I will appreciate it.
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I thought people said it is either all or nothing? Keep it all Bose or redo? IIRC, there was some sort of harness that was rumored to work? IDK.

I'd test the Pioneer unit on a known good car and see what it does first. I don't know if you blew something up with the system by jacking it into the non standard speakers.
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Same deal. I used two dual stereo 'equalizing' preamps to make it work, but that was 100 years ago (today's head units may work)! Crutchfield is a SUPERB resource for current info/fitment.
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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 11:53 AM
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I parked the car for now to do some detailing and will check everything over, will post on the results when done, thank's Jose.
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Someone may have modified the Bose interface by cutting out the little black adapter box or bought an adapter for a non-Bose car. I think they do make adapters for non Bose cars and they are the same connectors that plug into the Bose just wired a little differently So they might be using an adapter to connect the aftermarket radio to the factory connectors. It may be the amps in the doors and back are also bypassed or removed and by plugging in the Bose radio it won't power speakers that may not have Bose amps connected to them. Opening up the rear speakers is much easier to see if the Bose amps are still there. If the doors and the rear cargo speakers are aftermarket then I don't think the Bose radio will work.

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I wouldn't trust trust the PO. I'd rewire it myself and start a new.
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I called Crutchfield and spoke to Clarence. You need to order the Schoshe #CGM-01 harness to adjust the head unit output to the Bose amps.
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Thank you for all the response, decided to replace the Bose speakers after all, already took them off and received Polk 6.5 inch speakers with adapters and use the Pioneer receiver already on the car.
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What do you use for brackets? I used speakers for non Bose and got non Bose brackets from a C4
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I bought the adapters from www.car- speaker- adapters.com. The front ones mount exactly where the original enclosures used to be and the rear ones also mount perfectly, they were between 35 to 40 dollars, maybe less.
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What's under the top of the dash? My C3 has speakers under there, but I hear nothing from my C4 (?)
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Originally Posted by MSGT-R
What's under the top of the dash? My C3 has speakers under there, but I hear nothing from my C4 (?)
Bose cars don't have speakers there
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Thanks. Nice link. The car no longer has the original radio unit.
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Originally Posted by MSGT-R
Thanks. Nice link. The car no longer has the original radio unit.
Something I noticed. The wires I had were ok but a little thin. Consider that this is an old car, I'd rather have new wires.
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Originally Posted by Cruisinfanatic
Bose cars don't have speakers there
All of them? I thought some had 6 speakers, 2 in the dash, 2 in the doors and 2 in back?

Both of my C4s were originally Delco non-Bose though and most of the others I've seen the Bose systems had already been swapped out for something aftermarket or were taken apart at the time to rebuild the amps.
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When I ripped the Bose out of the 91,we had 2 rear and 2 front. On the driver side it was the sill panel in front of the brake handle
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All of them? I thought some had 6 speakers, 2 in the dash, 2 in the doors and 2 in back?

Both of my C4s were originally Delco non-Bose though and most of the others I've seen the Bose systems had already been swapped out for something aftermarket or were taken apart at the time to rebuild the amps.
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Originally Posted by Cruisinfanatic
None! 84-89
Did they have a fake plastic insert that looked like a speaker? I coulda sworn the guy I bought a 1985 dash pad for my 1984 from had speakers in his dash and it was a Bose car with the Bose speakers in the door and rear. He had those out and was selling them. I couldn't use his door panels because they were cut for the Bose speakers and I didn't want to run 6 speakers off the Kenwood I put in my 1984.
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Umm, my 85 certainly has enough "holes" for 6 if I want to tackle that.
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Originally Posted by MSGT-R
Umm, my 85 certainly has enough "holes" for 6 if I want to tackle that.
Some head units have 6 powered outs, but not many.

The Kenwood I put in my C4 has 4 powered outs and a set of line outs. One possible configuration would be to put 4x6 2-way speakers in the dash, 6.5" 3-way speakers in the doors and power both of those pairs of speakers from the four powered outs... Then you could use the 2 line outs into some kind of stereo amp and run that to a set of 6x9 3-ways in the rear.

A setup like that should get you very full sound and more than enough volume.
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