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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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I searched but couldn't find the answer. I want to find out how to cycle the abs so that I can be sure the brake system is bled completely. Is there a way of jumping pins to do this without the scan tool?
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To properly bleed the ABS pump itself, a GM Tech-1 scan tool will be needed to run the ABS pump. And the GM Tech-1 needs a special brake module attached to it in order to run the pump. Maybe a SnapOn or MATCO scanner might work?

The pump has it's own bleed valve (IIRC, on the side of the pump body) and it can be a real messy job to do as once you open that bleed valve, brake fluid will simply drain to the bottom of the compartment.

I usually just bleed the brakes at the calipers. Every time the engine is started and the car initially moves forward to about 2-4 MPH, the ABS pump will cycle. That's the buzzing sound you hear behind the seat. That cycling operation moves a small amount of fluid between the pump and master cylinder.
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Thanks. Had to bleed a system that had been completely replaced. I got the one on the abs unit and used a paper towel beneath it with positive results. Not sure if there is any air in the system still.
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harbor frieght has a $20 vacumme pump that makes it easy and neat.
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
To properly bleed the ABS pump itself, a GM Tech-1 scan tool will be needed to run the ABS pump. And the GM Tech-1 needs a special brake module attached to it in order to run the pump. Maybe a SnapOn or MATCO scanner might work?

The pump has it's own bleed valve (IIRC, on the side of the pump body) and it can be a real messy job to do as once you open that bleed valve, brake fluid will simply drain to the bottom of the compartment.

I usually just bleed the brakes at the calipers. Every time the engine is started and the car initially moves forward to about 2-4 MPH, the ABS pump will cycle. That's the buzzing sound you hear behind the seat. That cycling operation moves a small amount of fluid between the pump and master cylinder.
If i carry fresh fluid from master cylindr and bleed from caliper i will obtain new fluid from caliper bleeder and level in master will go down.

So i would assume that all circuit is bleeded, abs too.

Why you say no??

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Originally Posted by Christi@n
If i carry fresh fluid from master cylindr and bleed from caliper i will obtain new fluid from caliper bleeder and level in master will go down.

So i would assume that all circuit is bleeded, abs too.

Why you say no??
In normal braking, the ABS typically does not operate. Fluid is forced from the master cylinder directly to the calipers. Fluid does not go thru the ABS pump itself. Only when the ABS pump activates as a result of input from the wheel speed sensors will the ABS change how fluid passes thru.

In order to get fresh fluid into the ABS pump as in flushing it, it has to run. That's why a scan tool like the GM Tech-1 with the appropriate brake module has to be connected to the ALDL so that the scan tool can "turn on" the ABS pump. And in flushing the ABS pump, fluid comes out of the pump body at a bleed valve on the side of the unit. It doesn't flow out through the calipers.
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Hi,
Maybe you can cycle the ABS by "getting into the ABS situation"? Find a gravel road and lockup the wheels, making the ABS kick in. Keep an eye on the brake fluid level. A few times ought to get the fluid/air bubbles circulated out of the system. Maybe??

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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 08:44 AM
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Easy to do but not desirable...tons of snow here right now.


Originally Posted by wzschirnt
Hi,
Maybe you can cycle the ABS by "getting into the ABS situation"? Find a gravel road and lockup the wheels, making the ABS kick in. Keep an eye on the brake fluid level. A few times ought to get the fluid/air bubbles circulated out of the system. Maybe??

Good luck.
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Oh, just saw your 'hometown'. Well, maybe when the snow melts. :-)

Good luck. walt z.
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Originally Posted by 1986coupe
Easy to do but not desirable...tons of snow here right now.
just start at the four seasons hotel and head down the hill towards the falls. you will work the $%#@ out of the abs.
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