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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Can the engine start on 6 degrees timing? IDK

That would be a trick but my money is on anything BUT the optispark since he doesn't have one.

IMO, the FSM is worth it at almost any point. Saved me a lot of headaches.
i know that i have FSM

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Call Jon at FIC for injectors leave ebay alone.
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The car runs beautiful always, injectors have been in for 3 yrs.
This is something new only started last week. Car runs fine until you stomp on the gas. Then when you let off passing gear it runs ok then i went in a store n came out n car would not start. So i thought my fuel pump went put new in that was not it so i tuned it up and that was not it so i changed modular n that not it. so that's why i am asking u guys what's up. I was thinking injectors were dirty or ECM is going bonkers.
Before we start replacing it, if that is your thesis, did you check out fuel pressure at WOT and when it doesn't run?

Injectors are probably dirty since every 3 years when I clean mine, they have a better "after" result than "before". However, injectors getting dirty are a slower process which is why people always say "My car seems to run fine. Why clean it?". This sudden, either you sucked in a bunch of silt that is fine enough to get past the fuel filter and too big to get past the basket filter in the injector or the coil shorted. If you have Multecs, the latter is more likely since ethanol is supposed to be hard on the coils which use fuel for cooling.

If you think the ECM is bad, try rapping on it when it is hot and does not start and see what it does.
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Timing is perfect i check it
Timing might be right but when the car is running, the timing goes up when you accelerate. So keep the timing light in the car and when it feels sluggish, hit it with the light and see if it goes up when you rev it. Say it is at 15 degrees with the tan wire, disconnect it and it should drop back to 6. That is to test for ECM advance. You could have a bad module or a bad wire from the ECM to the module.
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Anybody know if the 84 ECM will work in the 89. I have 4 good 84 ECM

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Anybody know if the 84 ECM will work in the 89. I have 4 good 84 ECM
I don't think it will work but I am not sure. You have an 84 which is TBI and an 89 is MAF.
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Call Jon at FIC for injectors leave ebay alone.
Yeah, that way he can sell you Bosch yellows that are undersized.
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Anybody know if the 84 ECM will work in the 89. I have 4 good 84 ECM
No, the 1227165 and 16198259 was used from 1986 thru 1989.
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I don't think it will work but I am not sure. You have an 84 which is TBI and an 89 is MAF.
Yea I didn't think so I'm sure
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
No, the 1227165 and 16198259 was used from 1986 thru 1989.
Ok thanks
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Originally Posted by aklim
Before we start replacing it, if that is your thesis, did you check out fuel pressure at WOT and when it doesn't run?

Injectors are probably dirty since every 3 years when I clean mine, they have a better "after" result than "before". However, injectors getting dirty are a slower process which is why people always say "My car seems to run fine. Why clean it?". This sudden, either you sucked in a bunch of silt that is fine enough to get past the fuel filter and too big to get past the basket filter in the injector or the coil shorted. If you have Multecs, the latter is more likely since ethanol is supposed to be hard on the coils which use fuel for cooling.

If you think the ECM is bad, try rapping on it when it is hot and does not start and see what it does.
Yea but if injectors are dirty why when I let it sit an hr with the bat disconnected. It starts n runs fine. Only screws up if I punch it
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Yea but if injectors are dirty why when I let it sit an hr with the bat disconnected. It starts n runs fine. Only screws up if I punch it
Ohm the injectors first. A bad coil can overheat the injector driver and in some cases shut the car down. from mid year 88 through the late 90's GM used Rochester Products that are known to be bad.
I had a guy about a year ago that had a 1990 with 10,000 miles on it. He had GM replace his injectors. It ran lean so we logged it and remapped his fuel. These guys claiming 1 injector fits 85 thru 91 is a complete lie. 85 used a 23.8 lb injector rated at 43.5 psi but installed at 39 spi. Yours is a 21 rated at 43.5 but installed at 46 or 47. I've reprogrammed more than 50 cars running Bosch yellow 0280-155-700's. We I change the flowrate to 20 it runs right without a lean stumble.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Ohm the injectors first. A bad coil can overheat the injector driver and in some cases shut the car down. from mid year 88 through the late 90's GM used Rochester Products that are known to be bad.
I had a guy about a year ago that had a 1990 with 10,000 miles on it. He had GM replace his injectors. It ran lean so we logged it and remapped his fuel. These guys claiming 1 injector fits 85 thru 91 is a complete lie. 85 used a 23.8 lb injector rated at 43.5 psi but installed at 39 spi. Yours is a 21 rated at 43.5 but installed at 46 or 47. I've reprogrammed more than 50 cars running Bosch yellow 0280-155-700's. We I change the flowrate to 20 it runs right without a lean stumble.
Mr. *****, You is correct #1 is 1 ohm, driver side 3,5,7 is 22 ohm, pass side is 16,19,20,21 ohm. so i gotta get 1 injector. when i disconnect #1 it runs way better and starts. I will get new injector and let you know results but you the man. Thanks alot Crazy Ray
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Mr. *****, You is correct #1 is 1 ohm, driver side 3,5,7 is 22 ohm, pass side is 16,19,20,21 ohm. so i gotta get 1 injector. when i disconnect #1 it runs way better and starts. I will get new injector and let you know results but you the man. Thanks alot Crazy Ray
Whoa, replace the set. Either get Accel 21's or use the method I previously posted.
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Mr. *****, You is correct #1 is 1 ohm, driver side 3,5,7 is 22 ohm, pass side is 16,19,20,21 ohm. so i gotta get 1 injector. when i disconnect #1 it runs way better and starts. I will get new injector and let you know results but you the man. Thanks alot Crazy Ray
Hi ***** on ebay i can buy 1 injector is this the right one
NEW 42lbs Green Top Racing Fuel Injector 440CC EV1 0280150558 Turbo 42 lb/hr EV1
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Whoa, replace the set. Either get Accel 21's or use the method I previously posted.
This^^^
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Hi ***** on ebay i can buy 1 injector is this the right one
NEW 42lbs Green Top Racing Fuel Injector 440CC EV1 0280150558 Turbo 42 lb/hr EV1
Sure. I bet it will run pig rich and kill every mosquito in your yard, assuming it even runs. Get a set of reman injectors from FIC and be done with it. Clean and test every 3 years.
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Yeah, get these from FIC and run lean.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Bo...tVfOtf&vxp=mtr

I can reset the flowrate to 20 and they'll work.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Yeah, get these from FIC and run lean.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Bo...tVfOtf&vxp=mtr

I can reset the flowrate to 20 and they'll work.
dam bro i only need 1. i dont have the money right now, my 84 is getting a rebuild trans for 500hp costing me $1500 n $5000 i gotta have for my taxes in 5 weeks. cant spend $300+ right now.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 07:17 PM
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I can get you a set of 24's for $150.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-4L-V8-3500...RTc72f&vxp=mtr

Then send me the memcal (AKA PROM) to be reprogrammed for $65. Check injectors first. If you do buy injectors make sure Martin knows it's for TPI.
This will fix it for $215.

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Whoa, replace the set. Either get Accel 21's or use the method I previously posted.
Originally Posted by MrWillys
Yeah, get these from FIC and run lean.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Bo...tVfOtf&vxp=mtr

I can reset the flowrate to 20 and they'll work.
I'm being sarcastic because these guys think FIC walks on water but he sells a 20 lb injector as if it's 22. Not to mention GM used different pressure for different years as I've already explained.

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dam bro i only need 1. i dont have the money right now, my 84 is getting a rebuild trans for 500hp costing me $1500 n $5000 i gotta have for my taxes in 5 weeks. cant spend $300+ right now.
Your injectors need to ohm 16 or within 1. A job worth doing is worth doing right. Replacing one injector will most likely create an unbalanced fuel delivery system. Your choice though.
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