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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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Hi to all, My 89 vette is running ruff for about a week. When I went to pass someone it had no power and then when I parked it it would not start. So is it the ECM? I have changed modular,tune up cap,rotor, plugs wires. And it's still do it. (not as bad) Pulled codes got 42. Not sure to buy new ECM or not. Need advise

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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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COPIED FROM ANOTHER THREAD:

The code is set by a lack of Electronic Spark Timing signal to the ECM. This is a white wire between the ECM and ignition coil driver(pin 12in the yellow or grey plug at ECM to pin B on the ignition module). Check your wiring between your ECM and ignition module including a close check of the connectors. The wiring is likely good but if you have had a connector gasket fail there could be corrosion in the connector causing a failure.

You could also have a short between the high and low resolution lines from the Optispark. This also could be a wiring/connector issue or a failed Optispark. It is hard to say.

This may be a simple problem that is difficule to track down. A factory service manual would be worth a lot to you at this point.
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I checked the white wire all looks good, I check the timing wire (that you unplug when timing car) that's good. I think I would have to pull ECM out and your saying check the plug connectors there. I have Manual

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Code 42 can also be set if the brown wire has been disconnected to set timing. Have you set timing recently?
See here.
http://www.chevythunder.com/est_code_42.htm
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YES! I have but I check the timing wire (that you unplug when timing car) that's good.
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Disconnect the negative for 30 seconds and my guess is code 42 goes away.
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Thanks for that link. Mr *****, Good link

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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Disconnect the negative for 30 seconds and my guess is code 42 goes away.
Yea but when i drive it and gas it car brakes up and loses power then when i park it it will not start then i pull codes and 42 is back
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Ohm the injectors first. Should be around 16 so if 1 or more is off they need to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
Ohm the injectors first. Should be around 16 so if 1 or more is off they need to be replaced.
Oh man i was hoping no one would say that there expensive,kinda hoping it could be the ECM
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Guy before me changed 3 injectors
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I can get you a set of 24's for $150.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-4L-V8-3500...RTc72f&vxp=mtr

Then send me the memcal (AKA PROM) to be reprogrammed for $65. Check injectors first. If you do buy injectors make sure Martin knows it's for TPI.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
I can get you a set of 24's for $150.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-4L-V8-3500...RTc72f&vxp=mtr

Then send me the memcal (AKA PROM) to be reprogrammed for $65. Check injectors first. If you do buy injectors make sure Martin knows it's for TPI.
Thanks How to check? disconnect each one and put Ohm on wires
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Thanks How to check? disconnect each one and put Ohm on wires
On the injector tabs on the injector itself.
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Originally Posted by MrWillys
On the injector tabs on the injector itself.
OK Thanks Sir, I will do that when i get home or over weekend. I will get back to you, when i know somethin.
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Originally Posted by seabright
The code is set by a lack of Electronic Spark Timing signal to the ECM. This is a white wire between the ECM and ignition coil driver(pin 12in the yellow or grey plug at ECM to pin B on the ignition module). Check your wiring between your ECM and ignition module including a close check of the connectors. The wiring is likely good but if you have had a connector gasket fail there could be corrosion in the connector causing a failure.

You could also have a short between the high and low resolution lines from the Optispark. This also could be a wiring/connector issue or a failed Optispark. It is hard to say.

This may be a simple problem that is difficule to track down. A factory service manual would be worth a lot to you at this point.
Can the engine start on 6 degrees timing? IDK

That would be a trick but my money is on anything BUT the optispark since he doesn't have one.

IMO, the FSM is worth it at almost any point. Saved me a lot of headaches.
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Yea but when i drive it and gas it car brakes up and loses power then when i park it it will not start then i pull codes and 42 is back
Lets try this. Next time you start the car, get the timing. It should be more than 6 degrees. After which, disconnect the tan wire and it should drop to 6 degrees. You probably will have to rev on the motor to keep it running if it doesn't/
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Originally Posted by rays96in
Guy before me changed 3 injectors
Don't mean he got the right size or fully functioning injectors or even got the real problem.
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Originally Posted by aklim
Don't mean he got the right size or fully functioning injectors or even got the real problem.
The car runs beautiful always, injectors have been in for 3 yrs.
This is something new only started last week. Car runs fine until you stomp on the gas. Then when you let off passing gear it runs ok then i went in a store n came out n car would not start. So i thought my fuel pump went put new in that was not it so i tuned it up and that was not it so i changed modular n that not it. so that's why i am asking u guys what's up. I was thinking injectors were dirty or ECM is going bonkers.
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Originally Posted by aklim
Lets try this. Next time you start the car, get the timing. It should be more than 6 degrees. After which, disconnect the tan wire and it should drop to 6 degrees. You probably will have to rev on the motor to keep it running if it doesn't/
Timing is perfect i check it
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