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Old Apr 15, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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Does anyone have suggestions on a replacement maf for an 89 corvette? I've replaced mine with a cardone rebuilt a couple years ago. Got the infamous code 36. I've done all the diagnostics and physically checked the maf for the wires to go red and I believe it's the maf.
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A word to the wise. Never use MAF cleaner on our fine wire MAFs.
There is a burnoff cycle that does this for us.

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Does anyone have suggestions on a replacement maf for an 89 corvette? I've replaced mine with a cardone rebuilt a couple years ago. Got the infamous code 36. I've done all the diagnostics and physically checked the maf for the wires to go red and I believe it's the maf.
My trials with my code 36 and 34 on my 88 ended up being solved by a stock GM MAF, and GM relays. Your car is super sensitive to resistance and only GM parts are the right load. GM Mafs are hard to find, and expensive, but worth it!
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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When you say GM MAFs, you mean Bosch.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
When you say GM MAFs, you mean Bosch.
Correct. The GM part is a Bosch stamped part. Not sure if Bosch has a private line solution too, but those are probably as hard to fine as the GM labelled version.
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I thought about the ac delco reman from rock auto. Just not sure what the quality would be.
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Also found the ac delco original equipment part#. 213-161. Of course can't seem to find it from a reliable source. But funny thing ac delco has it in their online catalog.
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I had the same problem with my old '87. I bought a Standard Motor Products MAF at my shop and when I installed it, driveability really went down the tubes. Couldn't figure out why (even replaced both relays); I could clear the codes and the engine would run fine. Once I shut it off and restarted, the Code 36 came back.

Turned out the MAF I had bought has a broken burnoff wire So rather than hope that a replacement or even a Cardone unit might work, I went with a brand new AC Delco MAF. This one had the correct BOSCH markings and the correct GM part number. Installed it, cleared the codes, started the engine and everything worked fine

That was the good news. The bad news was that the AC Delco part came to just over $725.00 And that was my cost at the shop. But the MAF error codes stopped after that and the car ran fine.
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I think I might go with the ac delco rebuild. Only one I can find for my 89. 86-87 Rock auto has that $700 maf. But only for those 2 years.
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Hi,

search for Bosch Classic in Germany. You can send them your original part, they will reman your unit to original specs.
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Below is what I did to solve the problem of needing a new maf sensor... The stock ones on the market now are mostly junk...WW


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-i-got-ww.html
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Originally Posted by WW7
Below is what I did to solve the problem of needing a new maf sensor... The stock ones on the market now are mostly junk...WW


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-i-got-ww.html
I actually did come across this by chance. But on third gen I think. How did it workout? I was thinking about it. What was the total cost with the bin file? I have Scott hansen doing my chip when needed. Wonder if he's tuned for one of these mafs?
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Originally Posted by kitttransam
Does anyone have suggestions on a replacement maf for an 89 corvette? I've replaced mine with a cardone rebuilt a couple years ago. Got the infamous code 36. I've done all the diagnostics and physically checked the maf for the wires to go red and I believe it's the maf.
I agree with the posts so far.

I had the infamous Code36 - changed ECM, relays and used 6 MAFS!!
all the MAF's I used had Bosch part numbers on them, most were remanufactured.

Once I stopped "groping around in the dark", I got into the ECM with help from guys on here and discovered that the Burn Off voltage was out of spec and that's what was causing the ECM to show the Code 36.

Interestingly ALL the MAF's would send an out of spec voltage to the ECM. Some were 0.5 volts, some 1 volt, but all outside (above) the acceptable range for the test.

My conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with the wiring, ECM, relays etc. It was the MAF that was sending a too high a voltage to the ECM.

The choice I had was to keep throwing MAF's at the car until one finally sent the correct voltage to the ECM or disable the error reporting of Code 36.

And that's what I did - the burn off still happens, the ECM still gets the results of the test, it's just that it doesn't set the Error code and therefore the SES light stays off (unless there's some other problem).

My advice would be to find a workshop that can "see" (data log) the Burn off test, so you know why it's setting Code 36.

Good Luck!!
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Originally Posted by kitttransam
I actually did come across this by chance. But on third gen I think. How did it workout? I was thinking about it. What was the total cost with the bin file? I have Scott hansen doing my chip when needed. Wonder if he's tuned for one of these mafs?
Since installing the Blowerworks unit, my car has run better then it ever did with the GM stock maf sensor...The Blowerworks Maf sensor and housing cost me about $300.00 and the bin files were around $100.00...This is about half of what the new Bosch maf sensor cost..Scott Hanson should be able to handle installing the bin files for you ....Pat Carty (tequilaboy) is the one that helped me out with any questions I had.. I believe he is also the one that developed the bin files that are used for the MAF sensor..When I installed the Blowerworks maf sensor I eliminated the burn off module and the power module, you don't need them with the new MAF sensor..They have also now made the wiring harness a plug and play affair, when I installed mine I had to rewire and solder my harness in....I've always said that switching to this maf sensor system is the best modification I have done to my 89 Corvette.....WW

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Nothing special about a C4 Bosch MAF.

I got a brand new one from these guys in the UK about 5 years ago for $250 exchange. I bet you can source one in the USA easily enough. Its used on various cars, but if you ask a Corvette parts supplier, its usually $$$!!

http://www.airmassmeters.com/

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Well the blower works maf sounds like it would be the best option. I might be going that route. Just a matter of when. My cars runs fine now. But when smog time comes I'm going to need that code gone. Funny thing is I just did my smog test this past December and I got the code 36 right after my car passed and I left.
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Originally Posted by WW7
Below is what I did to solve the problem of needing a new maf sensor... The stock ones on the market now are mostly junk...WW


https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-i-got-ww.html
I have the Blowerworks MAF on my 383 also and would also use it on a stock engine
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Wow 2 years since I’ve seen this. I never did respond with my fix. I got lucky I found the ground wire not too far from the burn off relay was shorted. Insulation was bubbled. Cut the wire and reconnected and code was gone. I did end up buying an ac Delco unit before I found the short. And it was junk. So I sent it back. Any way I’m still running the cardone unit. But I’m still considering the blower works conversion since it’s been reported that car runs better with the newer Maf. And I’ve also learned out to do my own tuning also so I’m sure I could work with that blowerworks bin. Have a lot in the works to get more power and having my tranny be able to handle it. Maybe the blower works maf might be coming my way soon.
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Originally Posted by kitttransam
Wow 2 years since I’ve seen this. I never did respond with my fix. I got lucky I found the ground wire not too far from the burn off relay was shorted. Insulation was bubbled. Cut the wire and reconnected and code was gone. I did end up buying an ac Delco unit before I found the short. And it was junk. So I sent it back. Any way I’m still running the cardone unit. But I’m still considering the blower works conversion since it’s been reported that car runs better with the newer Maf. And I’ve also learned out to do my own tuning also so I’m sure I could work with that blowerworks bin. Have a lot in the works to get more power and having my tranny be able to handle it. Maybe the blower works maf might be coming my way soon.

Where is the burn off relay? This on driver's side front wheel well? sounds familiar to me but I'm not sure if I replaced this prior. As of today I have a code 36
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It’s behind the battery. 2 relays there both are for the maf. One is burn off and the other I forget.
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