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Old Apr 24, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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Tried searching can't find a answer. Does anyone know how high compression crossfire can Handel before I have problems with the timing
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Tried searching can't find a answer. Does anyone know how high compression crossfire can Handel before I have problems with the timing
The answer is very much "it depends". The Cross-Fire has flat top pistons unlike the later L98 motors with dished pistons so that gives a boost in compression over the dished ones in later C4s. The cam you are running also matters as the amount of valve overlap impacts dynamic compression also, the altitude you are at matters as does the quality gasoline that you can get normally. Aluminum heads will allow more compression than your stock iron ones: they cool better. I ran a L83 Cross-Fire short block with early aluminum L98 heads, MLS (multi-layer-steel) gaskets and the stock L83 cam on 91 octane with my base timing at 8 degrees before top dead center. The static compression was about 10.5 to 1. I got away with it partially because I'm at 6,000 ft. altitude so the cylinder pressures generated were reduced. If you are at lower altitude, it may not work. If you can get better octane gasoline, that may allow more compression.
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The highest octane pump gas around me is 93. Am I right to think my compresion with a 58 to 60 cc head give me 11 to 1 compresion? Is more valve overlap better or less sorry for all the questions I got the car cheep and really want to run it at the local 1/8 mile strip as well as driving it on weekends just not sure the best way to go
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The highest octane pump gas around me is 93. Am I right to think my compresion with a 58 to 60 cc head give me 11 to 1 compresion? Is more valve overlap better or less sorry for all the questions I got the car cheep and really want to run it at the local 1/8 mile strip as well as driving it on weekends just not sure the best way to go
If you use a thick MLS gasket and the 58cc head, like an aluminum L98, you will wind up with something less than 11 to 1... I got a real 10.5 to 1. What you have to worry about really is cylinder pressure, that is why altitude and valve overlap matter. Altitude because it effects air density (the mass of the volume air in the cylinder) and overlap for the same reason (if the intake valve is open when the piston starts up on compression you get reversion, some charge air is forced back into the intake track), if the exhaust is still open when the piston starts down on intake you also lose some charge air and that also lowers cylinder pressure. You can not use a radical cam with much overlap on a Cross-Fire with the stock ECM and chip because the ECM can't handle the change in airflow. Bottom line: you can probably get away with aluminum 58-60 cc heads with stock timing on real 93 octane fuel if you are more than 1000 ft above sea level. That has to be a guess, as they say "your results may vary" talk to the locals.
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