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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 10:30 PM
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Getting more and more done on my poor '86 coupe that's been sitting for years. Finishing up a tune-up with setting my timing, and the marks are very hard to read! I've seen some posts about this, but need some additional help. I cleaned up the tab some, and can pretty much make those out...but having trouble with the others...on the balancer or crankshaft pulley. Is there a secret to cleaning those to make them more legible? How do you get it in position to clean it up? Guessing there might be a better way than starting it over and over again, and crossing your fingers that'll it'll be in the right place on top. Please chime in with any tips. Thanks!
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Prob time for a new one if it's tore down(especially if the rubber inner ring is racked and crumbling), they aren't much for stock replacement. Still there is always timing tape(can come off) or a cover. I like to use a cover on stock balancers so I can easily see 90 deg marks for the procedure that I use to lash valves, still that's almost the cost of a new one and you can make your own marks if you really want. Also the cover will never turn like the outer ring and you can use it to check for turn/movement.
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Just wipe the outside surface if the harmonic damper that you can see. Use a little solvent if necessary, but don't use so much that it gets on the rubber ring in the damper. If the timing mark (actually a slot) doesn't show up, crank the engine a little bit, and wipe again, until you find the slot. Then put some white paint or some paper error correction fluid in the slot.

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
Just wipe the outside surface if the harmonic damper that you can see. Use a little solvent if necessary, but don't use so much that it gets on the rubber ring in the damper. If the timing mark (actually a slot) doesn't show up, crank the engine a little bit, and wipe again, until you find the slot. Then put some white paint or some paper error correction fluid in the slot.


Clean it up well. Put some masking tape along the sides of the timing mark and use one of the white paint sticks to fill in the timing mark. Works well and lasts based on my experience.
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mine was in pretty good shape - I did clean it a and finish w/ some paint detail. of course, my engine was in a state of teardown/rebuild when I did this....

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What I did was spray the tab on the block with brake cleaner and used whiteout on the harmonic balancer. Just paint the grove and wipe it with your finger and the grove will be easy to spot.
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Originally Posted by BOOT77
Prob time for a new one if it's tore down(especially if the rubber inner ring is racked and crumbling), they aren't much for stock replacement. Still there is always timing tape(can come off) or a cover. I like to use a cover on stock balancers so I can easily see 90 deg marks for the procedure that I use to lash valves, still that's almost the cost of a new one and you can make your own marks if you really want. Also the cover will never turn like the outer ring and you can use it to check for turn/movement.
Yea, they don't seem to be much for a stock replacement. I'll try cleaning it again, and if need be...I'll go that route. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
Just wipe the outside surface if the harmonic damper that you can see. Use a little solvent if necessary, but don't use so much that it gets on the rubber ring in the damper. If the timing mark (actually a slot) doesn't show up, crank the engine a little bit, and wipe again, until you find the slot. Then put some white paint or some paper error correction fluid in the slot.

I'll try again. It got late and got dark on me yesterday. Thanks for your tips! Anyone have a pic of what the marks on the balancer should look like?
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Originally Posted by hcbph

Clean it up well. Put some masking tape along the sides of the timing mark and use one of the white paint sticks to fill in the timing mark. Works well and lasts based on my experience.
Thanks for the tips! I'll give it another shot. It got late yesterday. Might just need a fresh day. Anyone have any pics of the marks on the balancer?
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Originally Posted by Joe C
mine was in pretty good shape - I did clean it a and finish w/ some paint detail. of course, my engine was in a state of teardown/rebuild when I did this....
Looks good! Thanks...Is that little dent on the balancer the mark I am looking for? If not, have any pics of that? Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by brushmor
What I did was spray the tab on the block with brake cleaner and used whiteout on the harmonic balancer. Just paint the grove and wipe it with your finger and the grove will be easy to spot.
I used brake cleaner too! Worked great on the tab. Need to hunt for that little indentation on the balancer. Hope I have that right. Have any pics of the indentation? My eyesight isn't what it used to be, so that's been a bit of a hindrance. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by hcbph

Clean it up well. Put some masking tape along the sides of the timing mark and use one of the white paint sticks to fill in the timing mark. Works well and lasts based on my experience.
Easier: No tape needed. White paint in the slot, then wipe the paint off the exterior of the damper. The paint won't get wiped out of the slot.
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
Easier: No tape needed. White paint in the slot, then wipe the paint off the exterior of the damper. The paint won't get wiped out of the slot.
Thanks...does that slot go all the way across?
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Originally Posted by racerseks
Thanks...does that slot go all the way across?
You've received plenty of suggestions. Just do it! Too much hand-holding.

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod Roy
You've received plenty of suggestions. Just do it! Too much hand-holding.

Doing it right now, is a luxury I don't have at the moment. In the meantime, I'm not too proud to listen to any suggestions out there. Your earlier comment was helpful. Thank you.
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Note that the timing tab has notches in it. The large notch is 0°. The first small notch is 6°:



The groove in the harmonic balancer does go all the way across.
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Old Jul 16, 2016 | 01:47 AM
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Note that the timing tab has notches in it. The large notch is 0°. The first small notch is 6°:



The groove in the harmonic balancer does go all the way across.
That definitely helps! Thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by racerseks
That definitely helps! Thanks for sharing.
You can see how mine was spun and I am sure that is why my timing was off causing a slight hesitation.
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You can see how mine was spun and I am sure that is why my timing was off causing a slight hesitation.
I see that, and also the mark...which helps. I'll keep an eye out and see if mine exhibits a similar condition. Thanks for posting!
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Had an hour or so before dark tonight, and got this done! Used some spray paint, sprayed into a bottle. A bit thin, but all I had on-hand. Was able to read it just fine, and it was right on the mark! Thanks for all that posted! Another one I can check off...
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