92 LT1 ECM to CCM Issues
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Melting Slicks
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92 LT1 ECM to CCM Issues
I recently purchased a 1992 LT1 coupe with 41,000 miles and drove it home from Michigan, about 240 miles. The drive was uneventful and the car ran well. I have had the car for 3 weeks. Late last week I was driving it home from work and the Check Engine Soon, Check ASR and Security lights all came on and the A/C stopped blowing cold. I just checked for trouble codes and got the following:
27, 28 and 69
1. CCM
H41 - Loss of ECM serial data communications
H74 - LED display dimming output circuit open or shorted to ground
4. ECM
H27 - Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) vacuum control signal solenoid valve circuit
H28 - Transmission range (TA) pressure switch assembly fault
H69 - A/C clutch circuit
9. ? for 1992
H72
Are the symptoms I experienced due to temporary loss of serial communication between the ECM and CCM? After I got home I turned the car off and everything was then fine.
27, 28 and 69
1. CCM
H41 - Loss of ECM serial data communications
H74 - LED display dimming output circuit open or shorted to ground
4. ECM
H27 - Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) vacuum control signal solenoid valve circuit
H28 - Transmission range (TA) pressure switch assembly fault
H69 - A/C clutch circuit
9. ? for 1992
H72
Are the symptoms I experienced due to temporary loss of serial communication between the ECM and CCM? After I got home I turned the car off and everything was then fine.
Last edited by JimLentz; Jul 24, 2016 at 08:23 PM.
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I believe that you clear all and then drive again until you get a similar failure maybe recording time/mileage "today" and the next "failure date".
When you post back maybe mention the code error vs. module and number. Someone has to do nearly as much of a read to answer the post as you might have had to do for diagnostics.
You might maybe consider cleaning/confirming G201 and G106 (Cluster/CCM respective grounds).
Do you have the FSM?
When you post back maybe mention the code error vs. module and number. Someone has to do nearly as much of a read to answer the post as you might have had to do for diagnostics.
You might maybe consider cleaning/confirming G201 and G106 (Cluster/CCM respective grounds).
Do you have the FSM?
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Mine had the same module 1 & 9 dtc's when I diagnosed the ecu to be bad. The car also bogged on acceleration and smelled very rich. Try tapping the ecu when it's acting up to see if the condition changes.
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Hopefully tonight I can check the ground connections and connectors on the ECM. I drove the car to work today and 3 times the problem happened intermittently. The lights would light up and the A/C go from cold to warm, but in a few seconds recovered (last time only shutting down and starting the car cleared everything up). The ASR Service light went on and stayed on the first time it happened this morning. I am looking around regarding ECM repair or purchase. They aren't easy to find.
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I got ready to leave work and the car died almost immediately with the Check engine soon and ASR lights on. It started right back up with no codes. I stopped at a grocery store and on the way to visit my Mom the lights came on for a bit with the ASR light staying on and the A/C was blowing warm air. The ride home was uneventful and I decided to leave it run in the driveway with the A/C and wiggling the ECM wires and tapping it had no effect, but I noticed the coolant temperature kept going up and got to 220 before I decided to turn on the A/C which forced the fans on and cooled the coolant down. Then I remembered when I first jumpered the A and B terminals to get the ECM codes it also caused he cooling fan to run. Something very odd going on there. I am going to look at the FSM, but the ECM sure seems to be getting worse.
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I am sending the ECM to SIA Electronics today and while looking for their eBay ad so I could pay them through eBay I stumbled across a working ECU from a 1992 Corvette for $180 and purchased it. If it really is working that seems like a deal and might need a MEMCAL if it is from one with an AT. I usually am not the kind of person that likes keeping spare parts, but the ECM is hard to find at a reasonable price.
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I received the ECM back from SIA and they re-flowed the whole board. I installed it and will drive it around and see how it goes. I went for a 2-3 mile drive and at least so far it is fine. I also purchased an ECM with the wrong MEMCAL and ordered a BAFL MEMCAL for my car/ECM as a spare. All this stuff is getting hard to find.
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It also appears to be very close to your throttle, might want to do something about that when you fix the hose.