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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 09:40 PM
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I started to remove the transmission in my 85 and ran into a snag. Doing some clutch work. The bolts holding the c channel to the diff were put in from the top by some asshat. The hex nuts are on bottom. Not enough room for the bolt to come out. Never seen one done this way. Should I just make some holes through the top of the tunnel and move on? It doesn't seem worthwhile to remove the whole diff.
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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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What a bitch. I don't know. I don't like cutting the hole.
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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by coothethird
I started to remove the transmission in my 85 and ran into a snag. Doing some clutch work. The bolts holding the c channel to the diff were put in from the top by some asshat. The hex nuts are on bottom. Not enough room for the bolt to come out. Never seen one done this way. Should I just make some holes through the top of the tunnel and move on? It doesn't seem worthwhile to remove the whole diff.

doh!

well i guess you to either pull diff or pull interior carpet then put holes. you could fill after with the right filler and not worry bout any long term affect.
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Old Sep 22, 2016 | 10:30 PM
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Guess you're pulling the rear too. That sucks, but it's the right way to do it.
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Too much work for me. I would remove bat wing bolts and lower it just enough to get bolts out.
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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Too much work for me. I would remove bat wing bolts and lower it just enough to get bolts out.
I removed my entire drivetrain, transmission and rear back like this. That was likely how yours was reassembled. It's not hard to do.

The problem you will encounter is that you can lower the rear, with the bat wings disconnected, your transmission is still connected to the engine. You probably won't have enough engine rocking travel to remove the bolts before the optispark base contacts the firewall. It may work though. If you try something like this with the optispark top on, you will damage it.

But once you have lowered the rear diff, you are only about 8 rear suspension bolts away from removing the whole thing.

This nasty pic was a before shot. I disassembled the whole thing rebuilt it, and now it looks brand new.
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You probably won't have enough engine rocking travel to remove the bolts before the optispark base contacts the firewall. It may work though. If you try something like this with the optispark top on, you will damage it.
Ah, there ain't not optispark on an '85. And even on the '92-'96 that do have an optispark, it's nowhere near the firewall!

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funny, thought distributor, typed optispark.
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Originally Posted by BlueTwoToneCorvette
funny, thought distributor, typed optispark.
Was sure that's what you mean't. Just yankin' your chain.
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Originally Posted by coothethird
I started to remove the transmission in my 85 and ran into a snag. Doing some clutch work. The bolts holding the c channel to the diff were put in from the top by some asshat. The hex nuts are on bottom. Not enough room for the bolt to come out. Never seen one done this way. Should I just make some holes through the top of the tunnel and move on? It doesn't seem worthwhile to remove the whole diff.
Couldn't you just push them up some and reach them with a small cut-off tool? You would of course need new bolts but it's an alternative I'd think. The DN+ unit I'd think also has open/exposed passages for the bolts, cut-off on the right side in those slots.

Your original thoughts are maybe not that bad an idea either. It's yours to observe and make the decision. Let us know which and maybe WHY you chose the route you choose!

If you've very compact cut-off tool or perhaps one with a flex-drive you'd be all set. Maybe borrow/rent.


Originally Posted by Ray Quayle
Was sure that's what you mean't. Just yankin' your chain.
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Originally Posted by BlueTwoToneCorvette
I removed my entire drivetrain, transmission and rear back like this. That was likely how yours was reassembled. It's not hard to do.

The problem you will encounter is that you can lower the rear, with the bat wings disconnected, your transmission is still connected to the engine. You probably won't have enough engine rocking travel to remove the bolts before the optispark base contacts the firewall. It may work though. If you try something like this with the optispark top on, you will damage it.

But once you have lowered the rear diff, you are only about 8 rear suspension bolts away from removing the whole thing.

This nasty pic was a before shot. I disassembled the whole thing rebuilt it, and now it looks brand new.
Changed the clutch on my 85 2 weeks ago . I unscrewed the bolts of the C beam from both the rear diff & OD , then took it out. Didn' thought to take out also the diff .It was quite a PITA ... Then I saw that the distributor was against the firewall and I thought " I'm screwed that's it " Changed the clutch and all the bushings on the car , put everything back. The engine started well - no issues . I hope that the distributor won't break in some 200 miles or so ..

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Finally got a little bit of time to work on this. Anyone squeamish about molesting an 85', look away now and do not read the following lines! I cut a 3ish by 6ish rectangular piece out of the tunnel. Right on top of the tunnel, between the compartments. It worked very well. This will also make putting the bolts back in much easier on the rear half of the c beam.

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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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I also found out why I had a bit of an atf leak. The vent coming from the od unit was loose and dangling inside the c beam. It appears to be stripped out on the od housing. Anyone repaired one of those before? I'm thinking some sort of epoxy would be strong enough.

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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by corvetteracer72
Changed the clutch on my 85 2 weeks ago . I unscrewed the bolts of the C beam from both the rear diff & OD , then took it out. Didn' thought to take out also the diff .It was quite a PITA ... Then I saw that the distributor was against the firewall and I thought " I'm screwed that's it " Changed the clutch and all the bushings on the car , put everything back. The engine started well - no issues . I hope that the distributor won't break in some 200 miles or so ..
Unfortunately my jack/support holding the back of the engine up... leaked down. The distributior was against the firewall just like yours. I too hope no damage has occurred. I took the cap off at least. Haha.
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