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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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I recently purchased a door ajar switch for my '92 coupe. My hatch release switch on that side wasn't working and by checking the FSM I realized that if the door ajar switch doesn't work that the hatch won't release. I used a multimeter to test the hatch release switch on that side and it was good.

I received the shipment from the vendor of the door ajar switch yesterday and installed it after work. It has a similar problem as the switch that was in there. The barrel of the switch has lateral movement and depending where it sits when opening and closing the door it doesn't always complete the circuit. Sometimes the lights come on when I open up the door and the hatch switch functions and sometimes it doesn't. I had to take the door panel off and since it is off does anyone know of a vendor that has a reliable door ajar switch? I will call the vendor later about the one I received and hope they send out a good one.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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No but try pulling out the plunger but not very hopful sounds like a crappie switch. You do not have to take the door panel off to change them. Just loosen the top screw then remove the bottom screw. Then turn the switch then reinstall the bottom screw to hold the backup plate. You will see what to do from there. I believe the center hatch button will still work.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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I would think that since you've removed the trim pad already you familiarize yourself with the procedure that requires "NO REMOVAL" of it and put the car back together less the switch. Then when you have a switch that functions correctly it's very straight forward and quickly accomplished.

I've not purchased a switch from any of the vendors, I've bought OE/GM in the past with never receiving a "dud".

I believe I recall that Keen was maybe the first of the "resellers" that announced the switch. I've no purchasing experience from them but I've a friend that buys regularly from them I believe. At one time they maybe had some that were actually just misassembled but were OE/GM with connector orientation difference.

Where's your current one from? You really want a second from the same source?
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:37 AM
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No but try pulling out the plunger but not very hopful sounds like a crappie switch. You do not have to take the door panel off to change them. Just loosen the top screw then remove the bottom screw. Then turn the switch then reinstall the bottom screw to hold the backup plate. You will see what to do from there.
I think the switch you are describing mounts differently. I was able to partially remove the switch without the backing plate falling out by using a trick I found replacing the top screw with one that is longer with the same threads that I cut the head off. I could not completely remove the switch because the wiring harness does not have enough slack to get it more than about half way out of the hole.

I also found that at one time there must have been a mouse living in there from the PO's home as I found all kinds of seeds in there. I had previously found the same seeds under the rear hatch trim near the latch. Fortunately I have not found any wiring damage on the car.
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I would think that since you've removed the trim pad already you familiarize yourself with the procedure that requires "NO REMOVAL" of it and put the car back together less the switch. Then when you have a switch that functions correctly it's very straight forward and quickly accomplished.

I've not purchased a switch from any of the vendors, I've bought OE/GM in the past with never receiving a "dud".

I believe I recall that Keen was maybe the first of the "resellers" that announced the switch. I've no purchasing experience from them but I've a friend that buys regularly from them I believe. At one time they maybe had some that were actually just misassembled but were OE/GM with connector orientation difference.

Where's your current one from? You really want a second from the same source?
I did find a procedure for removing the switch without removing the door panel, but there is not enough slack in the wiring harness to remove the switch. I will see if I can free up the wiring harness some as I would like to put it back together and be able to replace it the easy way.

I bought it from Zip Corvette.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:47 AM
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Not sure what switch you have then. They are the same from 88 to 96. I would still try to pull the plunger out all the way then shut the door to ajust. But your call.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JimLentz

I bought it from Zip Corvette.
ZIP I always thought to be one of the "MORE RELIABLE" - maybe just have a talk with them. If they've a known issue it would be good if they shared. Maybe ship a pair for you to select from.
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Not sure what switch you have then. They are the same from 88 to 96.
Should there be enough slack in the harness to remove the switch without taking off the panel? With mine there is not, but I can look in the door now and hopefully see if I can resolve that.

I can open the hatch with the switch in the center console and the switch in the drivers door, but the passenger one wasn't working. It's not a big deal, but I wanted to fix it. The locking tabs on the passengers hatch release switch are broken off, but I think I can fix that without replacing that switch as it is functional.

I have the original switch here at work and will pull the plunger out and see if I can make it work for me.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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Look for tape on your wire maybe the mouse did some damage and the PO fixed it and you have a bad connection along with your shorten wire. Mine had enough.
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Look for tape on your wire maybe the mouse did some damage and the PO fixed it and you have a bad connection along with your shorten wire. Mine had enough.
Thanks, I will take a closer look tonight. I did wiggle the wire last night thinking along the same lines and it didn't seem to help. Moving the barrel of the switch laterally seemed to make the switch make and break connection, which it should not do. Either way it seems like I should have more slack in that harness.
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I just got off the phone with Zip and they have been having problems with the switch. He says he has none in stock and they only have one vendor so any replacement will likely have the same issue. He originally was going to have me ship the switch back to get the credit, but ultimately just credited me for the cost of the switch. I wonder if the switch I took out of the car was similar, it only has the number stamped 141 in white on the body, that doesn't sound like a standard GM part number.

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Originally Posted by JimLentz
I just got off the phone with Zip and they have been having problems with the switch. He says he has none in stock and they only have one vendor so any replacement will likely have the same issue. He originally was going to have me ship the switch back to get the credit, but ultimately just credited me for the cost of the switch. I wonder if the switch I took out of the car was similar, it only has the number stamped 141 in white on the body, that doesn't sound like a standard GM part number.

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Well maybe you just ask the next vendor you contact if they have similar issues. I'd maybe avoid the MASS MARKET resellers and try to get a person that actually "understands" the issue you're questioning. ZIP guys are quite knowledgeable and I'd think the guys at Keen also. The larger with "order takers" I'd maybe avoid.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Well maybe you just ask the next vendor you contact if they have similar issues. I'd maybe avoid the MASS MARKET resellers and try to get a person that actually "understands" the issue you're questioning. ZIP guys are quite knowledgeable and I'd think the guys at Keen also. The larger with "order takers" I'd maybe avoid.
Unfortunately Zip said there is only one vendor for this part. The package didn't say on it, but I wonder if they are made in China.
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There should be enough slack in the wiring to R&R the switch without removing the door panel. I've done it several times. Somebody may have secured your wiring (tape, zip-ties, etc) in some way that's reducing the amount of freedom it could have.

GM part number for the switch is 10098478. Last time I checked, they were still available from dealer parts department.

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I haven't heard of an issue with the switch. The OEM was discontinued in 2012. This switch is somewhat fragile though and that is what you have to watch out for. The plunger is plastic and if your door is sagging at all it bends the plunger. This will keep it from popping back out when the door is open. Go ahead and pull the plunger out and see if it is straight or not, if not this is what is causing your issue.
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I bought one for my 95 from corvette America. Worked for about three months. It was past the 30 day warranty so I didn't even bother them with a warranty request. Before that I purchased a used one from eBay. Worked for a while. Now with reading here that there is only one manufacturer I suppose I'll go back to CA. I think my car eats those switches for a snack.
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Originally Posted by J.Abbott
I haven't heard of an issue with the switch. The OEM was discontinued in 2012. This switch is somewhat fragile though and that is what you have to watch out for. The plunger is plastic and if your door is sagging at all it bends the plunger. This will keep it from popping back out when the door is open. Go ahead and pull the plunger out and see if it is straight or not, if not this is what is causing your issue.
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Check post #11 - that post is the results of a "conversation" I'd say with "someone" at ZIP!!!
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Check post #11 - that post is the results of a "conversation" I'd say with "someone" at ZIP!!!
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Originally Posted by SJW
There should be enough slack in the wiring to R&R the switch without removing the door panel. I've done it several times. Somebody may have secured your wiring (tape, zip-ties, etc) in some way that's reducing the amount of freedom it could have.

GM part number for the switch is 10098478. Last time I checked, they were still available from dealer parts department.

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There should have been, but I think when my car was assembled the connector was routed behind the other wiring. The wiring is held in 2 places above and below the connector. I don't have a before picture, but I had to bend the wiring to pull the connector from behind the wiring bundle to get the length I should have had in the first place. That mystery is solved.




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Originally Posted by SJW
There should be enough slack in the wiring to R&R the switch without removing the door panel. I've done it several times. Somebody may have secured your wiring (tape, zip-ties, etc) in some way that's reducing the amount of freedom it could have.

GM part number for the switch is 10098478. Last time I checked, they were still available from dealer parts department.

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I am going to check a couple of local Chevy dealers.
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