Msd coils, tailor cable
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Drifting
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From: Trieste Italy
Msd coils, tailor cable
Hi all
I have some bonus coupon in hand to get parts from summit racing
I would take a MSD coil about 50$ plus a Taylor spark plug cables..
I need to know if they are high quality parts, think yes, but I'm not completely sure
thanks
I have some bonus coupon in hand to get parts from summit racing
I would take a MSD coil about 50$ plus a Taylor spark plug cables..
I need to know if they are high quality parts, think yes, but I'm not completely sure
thanks
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Drifting
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From: Trieste Italy
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The stock coil is more than adequate for your engine. Taylor does make good plug wires and the price is good. I have used them of both L98 and LT1 engines with no problems.
For the throttle body, the stock 48mm TB can easily handle mods like heads, a mild cam, and headers. A 52mm TB will work if you are replacing the stock one if something is wrong with it such as worn butterfly shaft, or throttle springs that are worn out. But a larger TB will simply pass the right amount of air into the plenum. Being a larger size doesn't effectively provide more intake air than the engine needs.
Unless you are planning some serious engine mods in the near future, leave the stock TB in place.
For the throttle body, the stock 48mm TB can easily handle mods like heads, a mild cam, and headers. A 52mm TB will work if you are replacing the stock one if something is wrong with it such as worn butterfly shaft, or throttle springs that are worn out. But a larger TB will simply pass the right amount of air into the plenum. Being a larger size doesn't effectively provide more intake air than the engine needs.
Unless you are planning some serious engine mods in the near future, leave the stock TB in place.
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Drifting
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From: Trieste Italy
The stock coil is more than adequate for your engine. Taylor does make good plug wires and the price is good. I have used them of both L98 and LT1 engines with no problems.
For the throttle body, the stock 48mm TB can easily handle mods like heads, a mild cam, and headers. A 52mm TB will work if you are replacing the stock one if something is wrong with it such as worn butterfly shaft, or throttle springs that are worn out. But a larger TB will simply pass the right amount of air into the plenum. Being a larger size doesn't effectively provide more intake air than the engine needs.
Unless you are planning some serious engine mods in the near future, leave the stock TB in place.
For the throttle body, the stock 48mm TB can easily handle mods like heads, a mild cam, and headers. A 52mm TB will work if you are replacing the stock one if something is wrong with it such as worn butterfly shaft, or throttle springs that are worn out. But a larger TB will simply pass the right amount of air into the plenum. Being a larger size doesn't effectively provide more intake air than the engine needs.
Unless you are planning some serious engine mods in the near future, leave the stock TB in place.
i would take Msd coil to put some red color in engine bay... Taylor cables are red too
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From: NEwhere Ohio
i am running those exact same parts (from summit), with great luck.
my msd coil (for lt1) was purchased around 2002 and still works great to this day.
i am running the taylor wires and they are very high quality. i put them in around 2010.
i had bad luck with msd lt1 spark plug wires (i believe they were special pre cut for lt1 with boot ends already applied).
if you ran the car in the garage, lights out, you could see 'lightning' around the boot end/wire junction. i had to wrap every junction with electrical tape to prevent short circuits. though the car seemed to run ok.
hopefully everything is the same with the ignition coil.
summit tallmadge/akron, ohio warehouse/ retail store is < 3 miles from where i live....
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Been running Taylor's wires for 20 years, they are on all my cars. Fantastic wires! But if you think wires, and a coil will give you a noticeable power increase, you've been reading too many forum posts. h
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While a good coil and wire set won't give you any power increase except the placebo effect in the butt dyno, a bad set will kill power and run rough. I used MSD because I got a killer deal on the universal wire set and the crimper and I wanted custom length for my application since I wanted to run the wires on top of the valve cover and come down straight.
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While a good coil and wire set won't give you any power increase except the placebo effect in the butt dyno, a bad set will kill power and run rough. I used MSD because I got a killer deal on the universal wire set and the crimper and I wanted custom length for my application since I wanted to run the wires on top of the valve cover and come down straight.
If you have a quality ignition system though, your money would be better spent on something else. Like rearend gears. Now that's an improvement you will enjoy every day! h
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Totally agree. I had a cracked spark plug once, that gave me just enough miss to **** me off. Didn't find it till it got dark out. New plug too!
If you have a quality ignition system though, your money would be better spent on something else. Like rearend gears. Now that's an improvement you will enjoy every day! h
If you have a quality ignition system though, your money would be better spent on something else. Like rearend gears. Now that's an improvement you will enjoy every day! h
On that subject, I changed from 3.73 to 4.10 and found that it sucked the hell out of the gas mileage and didn't really change much except some on the track. Made it less streetable. Based on advice from my tuner, we went with a cam that he had ground out and recommended 3.45 to match everything
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Mine started hesitating right after a car wash and clear out after a bit. An eternity later, I got the hint. Fine mist around the running car showed where the light show came from. Changed it and life was good.
On that subject, I changed from 3.73 to 4.10 and found that it sucked the hell out of the gas mileage and didn't really change much except some on the track. Made it less streetable. Based on advice from my tuner, we went with a cam that he had ground out and recommended 3.45 to match everything
On that subject, I changed from 3.73 to 4.10 and found that it sucked the hell out of the gas mileage and didn't really change much except some on the track. Made it less streetable. Based on advice from my tuner, we went with a cam that he had ground out and recommended 3.45 to match everything
My first car was a 69 442, and I put 4.56 gears in it, barely made it to the gas station, but boy was it fun! h
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Until you get the credit card bill, it is.
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Lol, yeah it can get expensive for sure. I've always had the money for the parts, and the brains to install them myself. I did call Randys ring, and pinion for my convert, and they said $500, if I pull the pumkin, and bring it in. Would do it myself, but there are special tools needed, and I'm getting too old to do everything myself. h
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Drifting
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Totally agree. I had a cracked spark plug once, that gave me just enough miss to **** me off. Didn't find it till it got dark out. New plug too!
If you have a quality ignition system though, your money would be better spent on something else. Like rearend gears. Now that's an improvement you will enjoy every day! h
If you have a quality ignition system though, your money would be better spent on something else. Like rearend gears. Now that's an improvement you will enjoy every day! h
That is pretty good
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I ran a dyno test at Barry Grants place way back in the day and tried everything from NAPA cheapies to solid core with several aftermarket wires in between. On a 650 hp big block the difference 6 hp and 5 ft. lbs. I call that dyno error. Big thing is ability to not break down with head the rest is snake oil at least at that hp. level that covers most here. The other thing is the fantasy that companies like MSD Moroso or Taylor make their own wire. I am willing to bet they all come from an offshore company and all that is different is color and printing.
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3.45 is an awesome gear, but with a 6 speed, you could go lower, and have even more fun! h
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I wouldn't go there yet. Thing is, do you believe that just because it comes from the same factory it has the same spec? I don't. Some of my work involves private labeling and we can make it to any spec you want. Mom worked with a pump company that made the same pump but with different internals depending on who is buying. Recently I had a sheet of glass that was supposed to be made by the same factory as MB. It fit the same but the rain sensor wouldn't work till we got a factory replacement. IIRC they said they even tried another sheet of their "factory equivalent".
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I ran a dyno test at Barry Grants place way back in the day and tried everything from NAPA cheapies to solid core with several aftermarket wires in between. On a 650 hp big block the difference 6 hp and 5 ft. lbs. I call that dyno error. Big thing is ability to not break down with head the rest is snake oil at least at that hp. level that covers most here. The other thing is the fantasy that companies like MSD Moroso or Taylor make their own wire. I am willing to bet they all come from an offshore company and all that is different is color and printing.