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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 08:49 PM
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I'm running the FAST 2.0 and if I had it to do over again I would not have gotten it. It is not FI compatible so no turbo or S/C in my future. I get weird up and down idol with the car some times as well but only in drive not park or neutral. The only good thing is I have so much aftermarket goodies in the L98 and don't have to worry about finding someone to burn the EPROM chip, data log, send in the logs wait for another chip repeat.... repeat.... repeat.
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..... FYI ... Both FAST and Holley have in house training classes for EFI tuning and installation ... Holley's classes are booked wayyy out , but FAST still has some openings for March 2 , 3 , & 4 at the Comp Cams complex in Memphis .....

That could be a must for a tuning junkie. Might be cool to do one via web participation for a price. I'm at the stage where I just want to drive it.



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I'm running the FAST 2.0 and if I had it to do over again I would not have gotten it. It is not FI compatible so no turbo or S/C in my future. I get weird up and down idol with the car some times as well but only in drive not park or neutral. The only good thing is I have so much aftermarket goodies in the L98 and don't have to worry about finding someone to burn the EPROM chip, data log, send in the logs wait for another chip repeat.... repeat.... repeat.

I'm not looking to run a SC or turbo but I have accumulated most of what's needed for a wet shot nitrous system. The EZ 2.0 has that as a highlight. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a dual sync distributor from the FAST website. Less of a sticker shock when I go for the EZ EFI 2.0 next month. Are you running an MSD box with yours? I also picked up some MSD cut-to-length plug wires.
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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I'm actually interested in how this works out for you.
I have the EBL/Flash in my car, fully tuned an runs like a champ. However one of my concerns has always been the "what if" scenario. The only support is thru his website and TGO. I was lucky and had a local company tune it... but they are no longer doing pre 96. Or even if I wanted to change things out on the motor and an upgrade, I'd be screwed since I have no desire to learn that far into tuning.

I have been actually considering
Holley's Terminator, It works with a small cap HEI dizzy for ignition control and since I'm a auto, just getting B&M's 700R4 lock out control. The advantage to that over the sniper is it doesn't need a dual sync dizzy

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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
That could be a must for a tuning junkie. Might be cool to do one via web participation for a price. I'm at the stage where I just want to drive it.






I'm not looking to run a SC or turbo but I have accumulated most of what's needed for a wet shot nitrous system. The EZ 2.0 has that as a highlight. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a dual sync distributor from the FAST website. Less of a sticker shock when I go for the EZ EFI 2.0 next month. Are you running an MSD box with yours? I also picked up some MSD cut-to-length plug wires.
I'm not planning on nitrous, got lots of goodies made 321/385 to the wheels on my L98, not bad for a TPI. Yes I have the MSD 6AL box, blaster 2 coil and wires. Here's what I did with the FAST data display, turned out pretty cool.Name:  20151128_103307.jpg
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by qws
I'm actually interested in how this works out for you.
I have the EBL/Flash in my car, fully tuned an runs like a champ. However one of my concerns has always been the "what if" scenario. The only support is thru his website and TGO. I was lucky and had a local company tune it... but they are no longer doing pre 96. Or even if I wanted to change things out on the motor and an upgrade, I'd be screwed since I have no desire to learn that far into tuning.

I have been actually considering
Holley's Terminator, It works with a small cap HEI dizzy for ignition control and since I'm a auto, just getting B&M's 700R4 lock out control. The advantage to that over the sniper is it doesn't need a dual sync dizzy
QWS, not sure if you were talking to me but if so it works fine. I have so much added to my car that I could not find anyone to tune it. Car starts and drives no issues besides the occasional issue of jumping RPMs. I have the dual sync dizzy.
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a dual sync distributor from the FAST website. Less of a sticker shock when I go for the EZ EFI 2.0 next month. Are you running an MSD box with yours? I also picked up some MSD cut-to-length plug wires.

Do you need the dual sync for it to retard timing or something? I thought you could just lock out any msd dist n it's would self learn. I know some use dual sync for individual cylinder coils.

Last set of msd wires I bought half where junk even when I cut n used a new end to try again using the good crimp tool like I've done on several sets before. Too many issues with MSD last few yrs can't wait for someone else to step-up.
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by qws
I'm actually interested in how this works out for you.
I have the EBL/Flash in my car, fully tuned an runs like a champ. However one of my concerns has always been the "what if" scenario. The only support is thru his website and TGO. I was lucky and had a local company tune it... but they are no longer doing pre 96. Or even if I wanted to change things out on the motor and an upgrade, I'd be screwed since I have no desire to learn that far into tuning.

I have been actually considering
Holley's Terminator, It works with a small cap HEI dizzy for ignition control and since I'm a auto, just getting B&M's 700R4 lock out control. The advantage to that over the sniper is it doesn't need a dual sync dizzy
I'm in the same boat as far as looking into DIY tuning goes. Not for everyone. I got no shame saying I can't tune for ****. I remember going into it with a good attitude: bought the Burn2, quick eject Moates ECU board, bag of chips, Tunerpro RT and so on. Sat down with thirdgen DIY prom for a few weeks and their disclaimer actually says expect several months to a year or more to finally begin to understand tuning, expect to be frustrated, walk away from it for a few weeks, then come back and pick up where you left off. My impatience got the better of me. That and I realized I was trying to massage 80s tech to run parts made in the modern day that it was never intended to manage.

There's a youtube video of David Freiburger installing the EZ EFI on one of his cars. I think that sold me on looking into it. The list for the Holley HP is HUGE, in a good way. I think both side by side, the Holley is superior but for my cookie cutter 383, the cheaper EZ EFI should work just fine.




Originally Posted by dgantt
I'm not planning on nitrous, got lots of goodies made 321/385 to the wheels on my L98, not bad for a TPI. Yes I have the MSD 6AL box, blaster 2 coil and wires. Here's what I did with the FAST data display, turned out pretty cool.Attachment 48067556
Now that's a slick setup for the touch screen and an idea to keep in mind. Looks like I'll look into the MSD 6AL and a blaster coil.



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Do you need the dual sync for it to retard timing or something? I thought you could just lock out any msd dist n it's would self learn. I know some use dual sync for individual cylinder coils.

Last set of msd wires I bought half where junk even when I cut n used a new end to try again using the good crimp tool like I've done on several sets before. Too many issues with MSD last few yrs can't wait for someone else to step-up.

Looks like you can either go dual sync or crank trigger to have it operate as intended. Thought about the crank trigger as it was cheaper and looked to do the same job but it can be a problem with interference with some drivebelt accessories on some cars. Figured I would pay a little more for a no sweat drop in. I thought about the MSD distributor as well but have read way too many comments about failed units in the 6 month to 1 year timeframe of purchase.

Probably plenty out there that have lasted a good long time but I have done more than my share of the parts return/exchange game. We will see how the wires turn out, they are 3X the price of a brand like Accel but most people seem to love them. Hopefully they aren't junk.

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..... You only need the dual sync distributor if you are going sequential fuel injection or coil near plug ... for TPI or MPFI you can get by with whatever distributor you're using with the OEM ECM ... the small cap HEI from Trucks or F-bodies is a great alternative to the big HEI that our L98's came with ..... I'm referring to the Holley systems ... FYI , the Terminator , Avenger , and the HP controllers are all the same ... identical except for the stickers .....

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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by C409
..... You only need the dual sync distributor if you are going sequential fuel injection or coil near plug ... for TPI or MPFI you can get by with whatever distributor you're using with the OEM ECM ... the small cap HEI from Trucks or F-bodies is a great alternative to the big HEI that our L98's came with ..... I'm referring to the Holley systems ... FYI , the Terminator , Avenger , and the HP controllers are all the same ... identical except for the stickers .....
As far as the EZ goes, everything I read said either a dual sync or crank trigger was involved. The only workaround some guys on thirdgen found was using an MSD dual sync they were already running. I'll reach out to verify.

Edit: gave them a quick call. Gotta run the dual sync or crank trigger. Only way around that was with an msd distributor.

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Alright, pics or it didn't happen. I got my dual sync and plug wires. Guess I gotta do this now!




So before I start worrying about coughing up the cash for the EZ EFI 2.0 in the next month or so, I'm thinking I want to run the plug wires under the headers back to the new distributor. I have some generic autolites so far and they are pretty close to the 1-3/4'' headers.



Any good shorty plugs that I can run? It's tightest on the driver's side on #1 and #3 cylinders. Also looking to do some protective coating on the plug wires if I'm going under the headers. Found this:

https://www.performanceplusconnectio...tRoll_Sleeving

Beats $99 for the MSD version but wondering if this cheaper version will still do the job.
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Hey 85 corvette, where you putting the FAST computers? I'm installing a FAST easy efi LS kit on my car. I'm not impressed with the wiring harness, looks cheap and has no sealed relays or any sealed connections. They really cheaped out. Way too much harness for what your getting, its a messy set-up. I'm not impressed, but I'm hoping that it holds up to years of use.

I wished that FAST easy had a four wire connection for my newer alternator and used the factory knock sensors.

I still on the fence on where to install the computers, as I have two fast computer units one the efi and the other is the ignition.
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I have the msd "race" plug boot, gives me a little more space.

I also have the plug protectors, i bought the cheap $20 set off of amazon, and i have not had any issues with them, no burnt wires etc.

I also found an extra header gasket gave me the needed air gap.
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Originally Posted by Mike Holmen
Hey 85 corvette, where you putting the FAST computers? I'm installing a FAST easy efi LS kit on my car. I'm not impressed with the wiring harness, looks cheap and has no sealed relays or any sealed connections. They really cheaped out. Way too much harness for what your getting, its a messy set-up. I'm not impressed, but I'm hoping that it holds up to years of use.

I wished that FAST easy had a four wire connection for my newer alternator and used the factory knock sensors.

I still on the fence on where to install the computers, as I have two fast computer units one the efi and the other is the ignition.

I'll try to keep everything inside the firewall and run the harness out through an available grommet. Sorry to hear about the wiring condition.....maybe I'll luck out? If I need to do some tidying up I guess I won't mind. I know there's better out there but I think for I've got, a cookie cutter 383, this should be plenty. Although.... I do like the Holley HP as well but what I have is not radical in any shape or form so that seems overkill.


Originally Posted by Gibbles
I have the msd "race" plug boot, gives me a little more space.

I also have the plug protectors, i bought the cheap $20 set off of amazon, and i have not had any issues with them, no burnt wires etc.

I also found an extra header gasket gave me the needed air gap.
I ended up getting the performance plus website's spark plug wire heat guard tubing (25ft roll) and some plug boot heat socks. Was about $70 shipped, not bad. I'm convinced the MSD heat guard tubing is the exact same as what I got....just had "MSD" stamped on it for $95. Like the MSD wires but seems like you pay nearly 3 times the price of comparable products for MSD due to the name stamped on it. Like they took the "Corvette Tax" formula and just made it universal.
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Don't laugh but I'm installing my fast ez on my driver side, right under my front head light.

383 stroker sounds likes a sweet set-up. What heads you going with?

I'm still on the fence on what way to go with my build. Either 4.1 in stroker into the LQ9 or get a lsx 454 block. I think I'm just going use NOS spray with a decent engine. I'm hoping to have my LQ9 started this month.

There still snow on the ground here, so I have few more days before I can drive my ride. So much for global warming this year, more like global freezing.
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Hey guys,didn't want to make a different topic for components I've already mentioned here. Wondering if anyone else running the dual sync has had issues with hood clearance? The dizzy is in as far as it will go but letting the hood down and the indentation where the rear of the TPI would rest hits the terminals with about an inch or so left of travel before fully locking down. Seems to be slightly taller than the original HEI distributor. The hood is trash so I don't mind cutting that portion out to clear, just wondering if anyone else had these teething problems.
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Hey guys,didn't want to make a different topic for components I've already mentioned here. Wondering if anyone else running the dual sync has had issues with hood clearance? The dizzy is in as far as it will go but letting the hood down and the indentation where the rear of the TPI would rest hits the terminals with about an inch or so left of travel before fully locking down. Seems to be slightly taller than the original HEI distributor. The hood is trash so I don't mind cutting that portion out to clear, just wondering if anyone else had these teething problems.
..... You could try an old school Chevy AC Delco Points distributor cap ... the one with the door in it for adjusting dwell and Non-HEI spark plug terms on top ... its much shorter .....
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Post a pic, that wild because the tpi also had the alum cover for the dist.
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I checked the differences in height between the two: FAST distributor is 7.66'' from collar to the top, whereas the old HEI is 7'' from collar to the top.

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