C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Holding engine up while removing motor mounts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-20-2017, 11:39 AM
  #1  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default Holding engine up while removing motor mounts

I'm doing that this weekend on my '94. On my other cars, I have an engine holding device (harbor freight) that sits on the shock towers. A pair of chains bolted to the engine hold the engine up.

On the C4, this seems a little more involved. Not sure if someone has a picture of how they held the engine up while removing the motor mounts ?

I've got to change a leaking freeze plug on the driver side.

-- Joe

Last edited by anesthes; 05-11-2017 at 09:45 AM.
Old 04-20-2017, 12:38 PM
  #2  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

See if these videos helps (more videos available at end of showing):


Last edited by don hall; 04-20-2017 at 12:50 PM.
Old 04-20-2017, 01:28 PM
  #3  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by seabright
See if these videos helps (more videos available at end of showing):
Ahh. I shoulda been more clear.

I have a lift, and I need to be able to raise the vehicle to work on it. The problem is, the frame is soo low on these vehicles I'm having a tough time using the engine holding tool:




This is the tool I use, the picture is my Firebird.

The Vette doesn't have the same style engine bay.

-- Joe
Old 04-20-2017, 04:53 PM
  #4  
hcbph
Safety Car
 
hcbph's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: Minneapolis Mn
Posts: 4,199
Received 526 Likes on 476 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by anesthes
Ahh. I shoulda been more clear.

I have a lift, and I need to be able to raise the vehicle to work on it. The problem is, the frame is soo low on these vehicles I'm having a tough time using the engine holding tool:




This is the tool I use, the picture is my Firebird.

The Vette doesn't have the same style engine bay.

-- Joe
Long time ago, I made something with the same functionality but worked a little different. I make a couple of J hooks and had come channel iron that worked from below, the hooks slipped in a couple of holes in the frame and the channel was drilled so the J hooks when through it and they were threaded. I welded up a bracket that aligned with the bottom of the block where the oil pan bolted up (kind of like a bottom mount engine support). The bracket extended down a little to clear the pan and I used a couple clamps to connect the two together. I used an cherry picker to raise the engine a little then tightened up the J hooks till the were snug. I had the engine off the mounts and had double support (didn't have to remove the cherry picker) and able to do all the work needed.

Unfortunately I sold it when I moved some years back but it worked out for me.

Good luck

Last edited by hcbph; 04-20-2017 at 04:56 PM.
Old 04-20-2017, 06:42 PM
  #5  
383vett
Race Director
 
383vett's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2003
Location: moraga ca
Posts: 17,570
Received 1,541 Likes on 1,042 Posts

Default

On my back I will use a 2x6 with a towel between it and the oil pan and a jack below. On a lift you could use a tranny jack the same way.
Old 04-20-2017, 11:25 PM
  #6  
Tom400CFI
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
 
Tom400CFI's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: Park City Utah
Posts: 21,544
Received 3,181 Likes on 2,322 Posts

Default

Jack the oil pan...smartly.
Old 04-24-2017, 12:54 PM
  #7  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Jack the oil pan...smartly.
It may come to that, the thing is if I need to raise the car up to get the freezeplug in from underneath I won't be able to. That's why I like using the bridge tool.. Ugg.

I took everything apart last night, unbolted the motor mount, etc. I just gotta remove the rotted freeze plug and press a new brass one in.

-- Joe
Old 04-24-2017, 01:41 PM
  #8  
Tom400CFI
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
 
Tom400CFI's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2004
Location: Park City Utah
Posts: 21,544
Received 3,181 Likes on 2,322 Posts

Default

Sounds like a suck job.
Old 04-25-2017, 02:18 AM
  #9  
Cliff Harris
Race Director
 
Cliff Harris's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2002
Location: Anaheim CA
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 0
Received 341 Likes on 312 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by anesthes
It may come to that, the thing is if I need to raise the car up to get the freezeplug in from underneath I won't be able to. That's why I like using the bridge tool.. Ugg.

I took everything apart last night, unbolted the motor mount, etc. I just gotta remove the rotted freeze plug and press a new brass one in.

-- Joe
I used a 2x4 on the oil pan rail to hold up the engine.

Why did the freeze plug behind the motor mount go bad when the other one is out in the open and easy to get to? I had a lot of trouble getting the brass one in. It took a LOT of pounding.
Old 04-25-2017, 09:57 AM
  #10  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Cliff Harris
I used a 2x4 on the oil pan rail to hold up the engine.

Why did the freeze plug behind the motor mount go bad when the other one is out in the open and easy to get to? I had a lot of trouble getting the brass one in. It took a LOT of pounding.
I dunno, when I googled it I found a number of LT1 cars had leaky freeze plugs behind the motor mount.

Do you have the tool? I've never had an issue installing freeze plugs. In this location, you can even use a porta-power to press it in if you had to. The suck part is removing the ac compressor, plugs, exhaust manifold, and clamshell.

I'd like to hold the engine up from up top, because I kinda wanna put the car up on the lift and do the plug from the bottom. Would be just easier due to the angle of the engine.

-- Joe
Old 04-25-2017, 03:45 PM
  #11  
1985 Corvette
Le Mans Master
 
1985 Corvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2004
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 5,167
Received 387 Likes on 236 Posts

Default

383vett has the ticket. Trans jack under the pan and safe, smart pressure applied. Another option is a cherry picker with a chain and bolt attached to the respective side you want to replace first. Doing the same job myself replacing some squishy rubber mounts with poly mounts this weekend.
Old 04-25-2017, 05:57 PM
  #12  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
383vett has the ticket. Trans jack under the pan and safe, smart pressure applied. Another option is a cherry picker with a chain and bolt attached to the respective side you want to replace first. Doing the same job myself replacing some squishy rubber mounts with poly mounts this weekend.
Yeah, if I wasn't using the lift I'd do that. But neither method will allow me to raise or lower the vehicle.

-- Joe
Old 04-25-2017, 08:52 PM
  #13  
1985 Corvette
Le Mans Master
 
1985 Corvette's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2004
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 5,167
Received 387 Likes on 236 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by anesthes
Yeah, if I wasn't using the lift I'd do that. But neither method will allow me to raise or lower the vehicle.

-- Joe
Well, not gonna lie, if you have jackstands that can get the car up to get a trans jack under the oil pan to gently lift the engine up some, I'd try that. I just gave 383Vett's method a whirl and it was super easy. Just did the driver side. So glad I didn't screw around with the cherry picker.
Old 05-08-2017, 08:58 AM
  #14  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

So I put the car up in the air, used my pole jack to lift it up off the mount by the oil pan, then cut a peice of wood that fit between the rail on the front of the block and the crossmember. This is holding the engine up.

Got the mount out, started removing the rotted freeze plug.

The mount is split so I guess I need to order a mount for that side.

Are you guys using poly mounts or just OE type?

Are you re-using that heat blanket ?

-- Joe
Old 05-09-2017, 01:13 AM
  #15  
wikdwizard
Pro
 
wikdwizard's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 693
Received 31 Likes on 27 Posts

Default

I've had good luck with the OE type from the parts chains. They havn't come with new heat blankets yet, but reusing the factory examples hasn't been an issue. If the PS one is cracked the DS one is likely worse.
Old 05-09-2017, 01:23 PM
  #16  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wikdwizard
I've had good luck with the OE type from the parts chains. They havn't come with new heat blankets yet, but reusing the factory examples hasn't been an issue. If the PS one is cracked the DS one is likely worse.
The DS is the freeze plug that rotted, so that's the side that is apart.

Can you get at the PS side without taking the exhaust manifold off?

-- Joe
Old 05-11-2017, 12:33 AM
  #17  
wikdwizard
Pro
 
wikdwizard's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 693
Received 31 Likes on 27 Posts

Default

Sorry; in your first post you said passenger side.

I do not know if R&R is possible without removing the manifold.

Get notified of new replies

To Holding engine up while removing motor mounts

Old 05-11-2017, 09:45 AM
  #18  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by wikdwizard
Sorry; in your first post you said passenger side.

I do not know if R&R is possible without removing the manifold.
Tequila might have been involved in that post

-- Joe
Old 05-15-2017, 01:34 AM
  #19  
wikdwizard
Pro
 
wikdwizard's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Kansas City, Kansas
Posts: 693
Received 31 Likes on 27 Posts

Default

I like your style!
Old 05-15-2017, 09:18 AM
  #20  
anesthes
Safety Car
Support Corvetteforum!
Thread Starter
 
anesthes's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Location: Salem NH
Posts: 4,274
Received 135 Likes on 100 Posts

Default

Freeze plug done. What a pita. Swapped the driver side motor mount with a 'solid' replacement (which is really just hard rubber)

Now onto the next problem. Intake manifold and valve cover oil leak, and a vac leak somewhere. Hopefully have the car back on the road by the weekend.


-- Joe
Attached Images   


Quick Reply: Holding engine up while removing motor mounts



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 AM.