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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 01:10 AM
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When I turn the distributor, the timing mark on my harmonic balancer doesn't change. I know that it is not the timing chain, but I don't know what else it could be. Car is a 1986 Corvette.

Is it possible that the timing light is bad?
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Originally Posted by Bailey0314
When I turn the distributor, the timing mark on my harmonic balancer doesn't change. I know that it is not the timing chain, but I don't know what else it could be. Car is a 1986 Corvette.

Is it possible that the timing light is bad?
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You have disconnected the timing bypass connector?
You have to do that to adjust the timing, or it will be way advanced.

Have you confirmed the harmonic ballancer outer ring has not moved, they can slip and usually move backward toward the timing case. Check this by confirming the no.1 piston is at the top of its stroke, when the ballancer mark aligns with the timing tab on the timing case cover.


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This thread was interesting some 13 years ago:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-88-vette.html

Here's a guide with snapshots:

Corvette L98 Ignition Timing (1).doc

The link was posted by https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...mihaltian.html many years ago.

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Originally Posted by gerardvg
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You have disconnected the timing bypass connector?
You have to do that to adjust the timing, or it will be way advanced.

Have you confirmed the harmonic balancer outer ring has not moved, they can slip and usually move backward toward the timing case. Check this by confirming the no.1 piston is at the top of its stroke, when the balancer mark aligns with the timing tab on the timing case cover.

- sure sounds like the EST was not disconnected. need more info from the OP - exactly how is he attempting to set the timing?

WVZR-1 posted a good "how-to" link.


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Default EST is disconnected

I looked at the other forum that was posted in the comments, I did all the steps that they are referring to. The distributor is advanced 18 degrees and won't go up or down whether it's at idle or revving. I can change the distributor and the advance still won't change.
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Originally Posted by Bailey0314
I looked at the other forum that was posted in the comments, I did all the steps that they are referring to. The distributor is advanced 18 degrees and won't go up or down whether it's at idle or revving. I can change the distributor and the advance still won't change.
again, did you DISCONNECT the ETC connector? sure sounds like the ECM is still controlling the timing.
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Default ETC/EST is disconnected

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again, did you DISCONNECT the ETC connector? sure sounds like the ECM is still controlling the timing.
You called it an EST in your last post, the title of my recent comment is "EST is disconnected". So yes, whether you call it the ETC or the EST, it is disconnected.
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Originally Posted by Bailey0314
You called it an EST in your last post, the title of my recent comment is "EST is disconnected". So yes, whether you call it the ETC or the EST, it is disconnected.
"ETC" - typo - my bad. ETC is electronic temperature control. it's "EST (electronic spark timing) connector.

if you have disconnected the EST, at this point, i'm not sure what is causing your problem - sorry....

just to see if we're on the same page, this is the connector we're talking about?


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It really doesn't matter if the EST is connected or not. Either way, the mark on the balancer should change when the distributor is moved.
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Default I think the computer is holding on to the timing

I think the ECM is holding onto the timing and not letting it come down from advanced. How do I get the ECM to let go of the timing so that the advanced can come down?
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The ECM can not hold the timing when you turn the distributor. It does not know you changed the base timing unless you change the initial timing in the software. I once had an aftermarket distributor that was made with a two piece housing. When I turned the distributor the timing did not change until I turned it so far the spark jumped to the next terminal. Finally figured out I was turning the cap and top of the housing only, the base of the distributor was not turning.
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