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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 04:36 PM
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no, they are not multecs. they look like bosch or a bosch design.




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no, they are not multechs. they look like bosch or a bosch design.



OK - I bought the car in January and was not sure. PO must have changed them at some point. The car runs pretty good so I did not think there was any problem with them.
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Here is a picture of a multec, Bosch 3 and a Bosch 4. This is for my 1993 LT1.

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OK - I bought the car in January and was not sure. PO must have changed them at some point. The car runs pretty good so I did not think there was any problem with them.
well, from the pic, you have an aluminum head L98, question is, what year? i'm curious about the green band, and i'm thinkling it might indicate the flow rate. I have seen those green band injectors on a land rover. , one of the PO's changed them out. FWIW, iron head L98's usually had 24 pounders, aluminum head usually run 22 pound injectors. if your car is running decent, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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OK - I bought the car in January and was not sure. PO must have changed them at some point. The car runs pretty good so I did not think there was any problem with them.
Nobody knows till you test it. I had a small vacuum leak that shows up on the scanner but the ECM hid it
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well, from the pic, you have an aluminum head L98, question is, what year? i'm curious about the green band. i'm thinkling it might indicate the flow rate. I have seen green band injectors like yours, that were on a land rover. , one of the PO's changed them out. FWIW, iron head L98's usually had 24 pounders, aluminum head usually run 22 pound injectors. if your car is running decent, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
It is an 88. I was just curious because they are kind of fat looking like the Multec's and I have read so many bad things about them.
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So is it just age that makes the Multecs poor or were they a bad design from the start.... and why?
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So is it just age that makes the Multecs poor or were they a bad design from the start.... and why?
not 100% sure, but i'm thinking it had something to do with fuel additives re-acting with the injector's coil, or the insulating material on the coil windings. from what I understand, multec's made after 1995 corrected this problem. it doesn't matter though, the bad rap multecs got early on haunts them to this day.

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So is it just age that makes the Multecs poor or were they a bad design from the start.... and why?
AFAIK it is fuel cooled and ethanol eats the windings
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Originally Posted by Joe C
not 100% sure, but i'm thinking it had something to do with fuel additives re-acting with the injector's coil, or the insulating material on the coil windings. from what I understand, multec's made after 1995 corrected this problem. it doesn't matter though, the bad rap multecs got early on haunts them to this day.
The later ones don't seem to be any better. My 96 started throwing a P0300 before 80k miles with the original multecs. Had to replace them. That was last year so they were 20 years old.
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The later ones don't seem to be any better. My 96 started throwing a P0300 before 80k miles with the original multecs. Had to replace them. That was last year so they were 20 years old.
interesting, but isn't code P0300 a "random" misfire, and not cylinder specific? not sure I understand that code vs. injectors, unless all 8 injectors were somehow at fault. now if your code was P030X , where the X is cylinder specific, i'd say it could be related to injectors. not that i'm an expert at diagnostics, or anything - just asking.
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Lucas injectors. Had them on my 88 also.
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I have seen green band injectors on a land rover.
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Lucas injectors. Had them on my 88 also.
"lucas" - "land rover" -- that would explain the connection.

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So is it just age that makes the Multecs poor or were they a bad design from the start.... and why?
I've run the Bosch pinks in my 86 iron head with reliable and consistent operation. The Multitecs they replaced were running well at 100k. Although the Boschs gave the SOTP an slight edge.

I choose to switch because of the better nozzle pattern design.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
I've run the Bosch pinks in my 86 iron head with reliable and consistent operation. The Multitecs they replaced were running well at 100k. Although the Boschs gave the SOTP an slight edge.

I choose to switch because of the better nozzle pattern design.
- curious -- what's the flow rating on "pinks" and is there a different injector called out for an iron head vs. aluminum head 86? i'm running 24 pound (blues) on my iron head 85, and 22 pound (yellow) on my AL-head 90.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
I've run the Bosch pinks in my 86 iron head with reliable and consistent operation. The Multitecs they replaced were running well at 100k. Although the Boschs gave the SOTP an slight edge.

I choose to switch because of the better nozzle pattern design.
Only 2 reasons there is a SOTP gain. Placebo effect or your old set was dirty and or on the way out but the ECM is compensating
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Originally Posted by Joe C
interesting, but isn't code P0300 a "random" misfire, and not cylinder specific? not sure I understand that code vs. injectors, unless all 8 injectors were somehow at fault. now if your code was P030X , where the X is cylinder specific, i'd say it could be related to injectors. not that i'm an expert at diagnostics, or anything - just asking.
I'm not an expert at diagnostics either. I have a good understanding of this based on another car. I had a four cylinder with a bad injector and a P0301. Live misfire count somewhere over 1,000 triggered the code. I moved the injector to cylinder #2 and left the code. I ran the car for a bit and when the misfire counter on cylinder #2 went high enough the P0301 went away it switched to a P0300. It seems most computers will either display a single P030x, or the P0300. I'm not sure I like the term 'random', to me it seems to be more of a 'multiple cylinder misfire' not a 'random misfire'.

In my case I probably had at least two faulty injectors. I know they get bad spray patterns which mean they can spray fuel in the cylinder, but not ignite. My check engine flashed which means fuel made it to the exhaust which makes sense.
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Originally Posted by JrRifleCoach
I've run the Bosch pinks in my 86 iron head with reliable and consistent operation. The Multitecs they replaced were running well at 100k. Although the Boschs gave the SOTP an slight edge.

I choose to switch because of the better nozzle pattern design.
Bosch pinks are the correct injector for an 86 and later (22lb come out of an 02-04 Mustang GT 2V GT).
The orange,yellow, and blue tops are technically wrong for this application. Don't know why they throw them in but they do.
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Originally Posted by Cjunkie
Bosch pinks are the correct injector for an 86 and later (22lb come out of an 02-04 Mustang GT 2V GT).
The orange,yellow, and blue tops are technically wrong for this application. Don't know why they throw them in but they do.
Sometimes it is about cost. If a set of 22 goes for 200 and 24 goes for 160 because it is more popular, I'd get 24 to save 40 because I know that the ECM will compensate
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