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Old Jun 5, 2017 | 02:57 PM
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As I was setting my new engine's base idle (I'd done it before, but have been changing the tune so I gave it another go), I noticed that the idle was pretty unsteady--it was hard to hit the target of 450 RPM because the tach was varying from about 400 to 500 RPM pretty regularly, with occasional swings to 375 or 525.

I was datalogging the whole time, and the BLMs in that cell were passable at 124.

Is this behavior normal, is it a symptom of a bigger-than-stock cam (Lunati Voodoo 262/270, similar to LPE 219), or is it likely something else?

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That is fine, I am surprised you could get it to idle that low. I would not even set the base idle at 450 RPM with a cam, I would target closer to what you want your idle to be when warm.
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That is fine, I am surprised you could get it to idle that low. I would not even set the base idle at 450 RPM with a cam, I would target closer to what you want your idle to be when warm.
I was surprised too, back with the original engine and even the new one before I had the VE tables nailed down I had to feather the throttle and just guess at what the idle would be if I let off.

I hadn't really considered having it idle faster than stock, what would the advantage of that be? Every now and then at idle my engine will die like a switch was flipped--sometimes it will barely recover--which I had thought to be an electrical problem, but could this be because my idle is too low for my cam?
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Originally Posted by C4ProjectCar
I was surprised too, back with the original engine and even the new one before I had the VE tables nailed down I had to feather the throttle and just guess at what the idle would be if I let off.

I hadn't really considered having it idle faster than stock, what would the advantage of that be? Every now and then at idle my engine will die like a switch was flipped--sometimes it will barely recover--which I had thought to be an electrical problem, but could this be because my idle is too low for my cam?
i concur with the base idle but for me its more like 550. i had an 85 (that bjank helped me with!) and it was definately happy at 550. There was a tsb issued for that year. but sounds like you are beyond stock setup anyway and doesn't look like you have a 85 buty maybe try a bit higheer and see if it will hold the idle.

i assume your iac is set to fully closed.
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i concur with the base idle but for me its more like 550. i had an 85 (that bjank helped me with!) and it was definately happy at 550. There was a tsb issued for that year. but sounds like you are beyond stock setup anyway and doesn't look like you have a 85 buty maybe try a bit higheer and see if it will hold the idle.

i assume your iac is set to fully closed.
Interesting, I'll look into that.

Yep, jumped ALDL pins A and B, turned key to on, disconnected IAC.
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Originally Posted by C4ProjectCar
I was surprised too, back with the original engine and even the new one before I had the VE tables nailed down I had to feather the throttle and just guess at what the idle would be if I let off.

I hadn't really considered having it idle faster than stock, what would the advantage of that be? Every now and then at idle my engine will die like a switch was flipped--sometimes it will barely recover--which I had thought to be an electrical problem, but could this be because my idle is too low for my cam?
A higher idle is needed when you have a larger then stock cam to get a steady smooth idle. The larger cam has more overlap and will want to idle higher. The stock tune has a warm idle at 550 RPM, that is the lowest I would set your minimum idle speed at. I would also consider moving the commanded idle speed up to 600 or 650 RPM with a warm engine with a small cam, it will idle smoother and have better intake manifold vacuum.
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