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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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Are these things worth it? Someone mentioned Blower Works to me once. Are they good?

Do you have one? Do you like it? Approximate cost?

Is there any reason not to do it?
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 04:30 PM
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I don't have one and from everything I've read they're snake oil. The only thing I've read that they do is lighten up your wallet.

Sorry, no personal experience with them.
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 04:34 PM
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I had Marc Haibec do a mail order tune for my 92 ZR-1 several years back.... it was NOT snake oil... I dunno who would do them for the LT or L98 engines though.
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 10:12 PM
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I've read good things about http://www.pcmofnc.com. Haven't bought yet.
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 12:31 AM
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pcmofnc.com doesn't show any upgrade for 94,95,96. Do the other year chips improve performance?
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 06:49 AM
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A one size fits all chip is a total waste of money. Find a good tuner you can either take the car to him for scanning or get it scanned yourself and send him the scan. He can then burn you a chip that will do the most for your car. If you have no mods or just few small ones there is no need for a custom tune, your ecm will learn any little changes and adjust for them.
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by A Peter C4
pcmofnc.com doesn't show any upgrade for 94,95,96. Do the other year chips improve performance?
The 1994, '95 & 96 PCM use flash memory - no chip. There are programs you can buy that will flash the PCM thru the ALDC connector.

I do "benchtop" flashing of these PCMs' as well as make chips for the 1985 thru 1993 ECMs.

Mail order can be just fine if you are looking for specific edits like a change in the fan(s) ON/OFF temp. For max power best to use a dyno for the tune. To get close to best tune, especially with regard to injector change etc., a back & forth process where you log and we tune can be done. Takes a lot of time and patience and hardware.
BR - greg
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlowerWorks
The 1994, '95 & 96 PCM use flash memory - no chip. There are programs you can buy that will flash the PCM thru the ALDC connector.

I do "benchtop" flashing of these PCMs' as well as make chips for the 1985 thru 1993 ECMs.

Mail order can be just fine if you are looking for specific edits like a change in the fan(s) ON/OFF temp. For max power best to use a dyno for the tune. To get close to best tune, especially with regard to injector change etc., a back & forth process where you log and we tune can be done. Takes a lot of time and patience and hardware.
BR - greg
Absolutely agree. Either dyno tune or datalog and send back and forth to dial it in. The rest is "guess a tune".
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25 years ago I bought an SLP chip for my '87.

I had installed an SLP airfoil, 1.6 ratio rockers, and a flowmaster exhaust. There was a hesitation at low rpm when I gave it throttle. I think those changes put it outside what the stock chip could handle. I removed the airfoil and it drove normally again. The airfoil did make a difference.

I put the chip in and also put the airfoil back in. There was no hesitation any more.

My conclusion was that the SLP chip allowed for a little more change from stock than the stock chip did. So it did do something, however I could not feel any difference in performance (other than fixing the hesitation).

In my opinion it is not worth the money to buy an off the shelf chip for nearly stock cars when I could not feel any difference.

If you have common mods, like a commonly used cam, headers, etc, there are some companies that have experience with these changes and if they have a chip that has been programmed for these changes it could be worth it.

A dyno tune or the tune-data log-tune and repeat method Blower Works suggested is the way to go.

Good luck.
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is PCMforless a nice middle ground between dyno tune and a chip?
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Originally Posted by vette196
is PCMforless a nice middle ground between dyno tune and a chip?
If they data log and tweak it I don't see why it doesn't work. Otherwise if all they do is write the program for the mods, I'd call it guesswork
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Give the tuner all the details on the engine and the mail order custom tune is ok, if he lets you datalog and send it back for perfections.

However theres no need unless you've really added serious modifications, except and unless you just want the fan settings shifted.

An off-the-shelf program for a stock car is wasting money otherwise.
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Originally Posted by vader86
However theres no need unless you've really added serious modifications,
like new rear gears(speedo), ported and polished heads with new hardware?

I just drained the oil on my blown head gasket...diarrhea colored...ew.

I plan on building from the heads out. Intake/TB and headers over the winter
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