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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 01:49 PM
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I have a very stock 89 automatic that will be a mild street driven car. As you know the alum heads have what looks like guides but I hear they are not. From what I read in other threads everyone says these L98's need self aligning rockers. What would happen if you just ran regular rollers, would they easily come off the stem? It may be a dumb question, but I am just curious if anyone has run non aligning without issues.
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Well yes you need something to guide the p-rods whether guideplates or the head p-rod slots. Self-aligning rockers should hold the rocker on valve tip but ya know I never see the SA rockers w/o the dummy guide plates or using head slots in the iron heads. Not here to argue what the phone guide plates do with SA rockers but they are there.

Most enthusiasts install real guide plates with hardened p-rods and use standard non-selfaligning rocker arms.

What I'm saying is don't run standard non-selfaligning rocker arms w/o guide plates.
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That seems to be the consensus, use one or the other. I am just curious if anyone has used non SA with the existing set up on a L98.
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Not sure what you to know exactly? How soon or what all can will break? yes, it's been done .....with consequences.
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Originally Posted by Ahnenerbe
What would happen if you just ran regular rollers, would they easily come off the stem?
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How soon or what all can will break? yes, it's been done .....with consequences.
Kevova is right; it will break. Your non-harded push rods and you fake guide plates will have a competition to see which can saw through the other, first. Both will lose and you'll end up with metal in your oil pan, and rockers running on the spring retainer.
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Thanks Tom, that's what I wanted to know. I just went to Jegs and bought hardened pushrods, guide plates, and 1.6 non SA roller tip rockers, which along with the air box mod I hope will add 20 HP. I also bought chrome valve covers which alone are worth probably 20HP.
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Originally Posted by Ahnenerbe
I also bought chrome valve covers which alone are worth probably 20HP.
Heck yeah!
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Originally Posted by Ahnenerbe
Thanks Tom, that's what I wanted to know. I just went to Jegs and bought hardened pushrods, guide plates, and 1.6 non SA roller tip rockers, which along with the air box mod I hope will add 20 HP. I also bought chrome valve covers which alone are worth probably 20HP.

You need to verify your valve springs can handle the greater lift of 1.6 rockers and the valve spring retainers don't touch the valve seal and/or valve guide at full lift. Some stock springs will go into coil bind w/1.6 rockers.

Also the 1.6 rocker arm moves the p-rod in closer to the rocker arm fulcrum. So you need to check the p-rod moves smoothly in the new guide w/o dragging. One more thing is check the rocker clears the valve spring retainer through its full arc of travel.

Hope this helps more than it hurts.
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