1992 Project - does not start - no fuel to rail
#1
Burning Brakes
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1992 Project - does not start - no fuel to rail
I have my 1992 project put back together, replaced intake gaskets, optispark, did a tune up etc. The car has not run for 8+ years, I have drained the gas completely and put 5 gallons of hi-test in. I turned the car over long enough for the gas to get there and it did not start, turned it over a bit more and still nothing. Cracked the main fuel line to the fuel rail and nothing, so it seems I have a fuel pump issue. Any tips on troubleshooting that?
Scott
Scott
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If it's been sitting that long, pump is probably shot. Do you hear a hum sound from the fuel tank area for about two seconds when you turn the key to the ON.position and before you crank it? The pump should come on to prime and pressurize the fuel system so adequate fuel is available at tnt injectors.
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#3
Burning Brakes
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I have not heard that hum, so I will assume the pump is shot.
Thanks,
Scott
Thanks,
Scott
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Burning Brakes
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Scott
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Burning Brakes
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I have installed the pump and now I have fuel at the rail (I unhooked the supply line at the rail and there was pressure), but it does not start. It sounds like it is getting a bit of fuel in that it turns over a little more vigorously than before but that is the only change. What should I look at next? Could all of the injectors be gummed up enough that they will not function?
#8
Burning Brakes
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I have installed the pump and now I have fuel at the rail (I unhooked the supply line at the rail and there was pressure), but it does not start. It sounds like it is getting a bit of fuel in that it turns over a little more vigorously than before but that is the only change. What should I look at next? Could all of the injectors be gummed up enough that they will not function?
#9
Burning Brakes
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So I guess it is possible that it is not a mechanical problem with the injectors, it could be that they are not getting the signal to open, never had a fuel injected corvette before, how do you troubleshoot electrical issues with fuel injection?
Thanks,
Scott
Thanks,
Scott
#10
Team Owner
Only 2 ways to clean. Send it off for testing and know it is really cleaned and tested or dump some snake oil into the tank and pretend it is clean.
#11
Team Owner
Get yourself a noid light. Beg, borrow or steal one from Autozone. They have a fuel injection testing light.
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#12
Burning Brakes
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That is on the agenda for tomorrow. I had one of the kids spray starter fluid in just now and it fired up so it seems it is an issue with fuel. Autozone is just 5 minutes away and I have borrowed tools from them in the past so they should be able to help me out here.
Scott
Scott
#14
Burning Brakes
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#15
Team Owner
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It's a '92 (LT1) so this is easy. Unbolt the fuel rails and lift the fuel rails/injectors up/out of the manifold and support the rail/injectors assy above the intake. Crank the engine and watch the injectors. Are they all firing nice conical fuel shots? All the same? No? the ones that don't are bad. Change 'em.
I just went through this on an '89 that had sat for 5 years. of the 8 injectors, 3 worked. TPI is harder to do the above test on, than an LT1, but I was still able to do it:
I just went through this on an '89 that had sat for 5 years. of the 8 injectors, 3 worked. TPI is harder to do the above test on, than an LT1, but I was still able to do it:
#16
Burning Brakes
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It's a '92 (LT1) so this is easy. Unbolt the fuel rails and lift the fuel rails/injectors up/out of the manifold and support the rail/injectors assy above the intake. Crank the engine and watch the injectors. Are they all firing nice conical fuel shots? All the same? No? the ones that don't are bad. Change 'em.
I just went through this on an '89 that had sat for 5 years. of the 8 injectors, 3 worked. TPI is harder to do the above test on, than an LT1, but I was still able to do it:
I just went through this on an '89 that had sat for 5 years. of the 8 injectors, 3 worked. TPI is harder to do the above test on, than an LT1, but I was still able to do it:
#17
Team Owner
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It will take you longer to get the Noid light than to run my test. All the injectors on each side of the motor are wired in parallel...so if one fires, it's extremely likely that they all have power/ground. You can Key On and check for power at any/all of the injectors w/a Meter.
Not if you're smoking a cigi. Use a little common sense and it's safe enough. I've tested injectors this way many times; it's easy and conclusive.
Not if you're smoking a cigi. Use a little common sense and it's safe enough. I've tested injectors this way many times; it's easy and conclusive.
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#18
Burning Brakes
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So if I find out it is the injectors and replace them I have seen where if they are not the exact same as stock I may need to reprogram the computer. The newest vette I have had before this one is a 1975 so computers are a new idea to me, how tough is it to reprogram?
#19
Burning Brakes
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For example, I see several different sets of injectors at Summit that will work, ranging from 24 to 36 lbs/hr, what is the stock flow rate?
#20
Team Owner
https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/collections/gm-car-rebuilt-injectors/products/92-lt1
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