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Old 12-08-2017, 02:15 PM
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Default Weight of D44 vs. D36

Anyone know how much the two diffs (with batwings attached) vary in weight?
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Awesome! Thanks for the link! 6-7 lbs is nothing. Definitely worth the weight for the extra strength, I'd say.

Thanks!
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Swapped my D36 for a D44 last year ... maybe 10 pounds at most, if that. It's all about strength, not weight.
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Copy that. I was considering trading my D44 for a D36, in my Kart project. The thing is so light, there is no way I'd ever break a 36. If there were weight savings (that were meaningful), I could make the swap, come out money ahead and save some weight. But for 7-10 lbs....I'll skip that trade.

My next thought is swapping the ZF-6 for a T5. That offers something like a 50-60 lb weight reduction.
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Originally Posted by KSA Aaron
My son weighed the '88 std coupe yesterday. Car came in at 2920lbs with full tank of gas. It has an estimated 425WHP (he runs my old top-end combo off my '87).


That car is surprisingly quick!
And this has what to do with the question asked in the original post?
Old 12-14-2017, 01:12 PM
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I was confused too. Not sure what useful info was shared. You're son has a lightish car that hauls azz. That is great, but...what would I do with that info?
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Copy that. I was considering trading my D44 for a D36, in my Kart project. The thing is so light, there is no way I'd ever break a 36. If there were weight savings (that were meaningful), I could make the swap, come out money ahead and save some weight. But for 7-10 lbs....I'll skip that trade.

My next thought is swapping the ZF-6 for a T5. That offers something like a 50-60 lb weight reduction.
Any additional details about that project?
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The details have been compiled slowly, HERE.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
The details have been compiled slowly, HERE.
I checked out your thread. Very interesting! I always enjoy seeing some custom fabrication and thinking outside the box.
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Thanks! I wish I had more time to keep it moving forward, faster. I probably won't work on it again much until after Christmas.
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love the way that thing sounds. I saw a car like that at the drags this year in Indy. It was a special event, fastest street car or something like that. They attract corvette owners like a magnet. they are cool. Best of luck Tom, I will check in to this tread as you progress.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI

My next thought is swapping the ZF-6 for a T5. That offers something like a 50-60 lb weight reduction.
The weight of the ZF is sorta right where you might like it isn't it? Then there's the fabrication required for the fitment of anything 'other than'.

If you had a buyer for the ZF with housing/clutch/flywheel, the D44 and associated parts as a package then the fabrication and $$ could maybe justify it.
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You're totally right. From a cost/benefit perspective, not worth it. But...this project is all about the project. I don't mind doing the fabrication at all...I rather enjoy it. So doing a little fab, dropping 60 lbs or so, and selling the ZF package wouldn't be a bad deal at all, IMO. Not a priority for now, but maybe later.

I owe you an email back BTW. Haven't forgotten...just busy time of year for me.
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FWIW my 12bolt IRS was 74lbs BEFORE adding the batwing.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Copy that. I was considering trading my D44 for a D36, in my Kart project. The thing is so light, there is no way I'd ever break a 36. If there were weight savings (that were meaningful), I could make the swap, come out money ahead and save some weight. But for 7-10 lbs....I'll skip that trade.

My next thought is swapping the ZF-6 for a T5. That offers something like a 50-60 lb weight reduction.
​​​​​​​Your welcome to my D36 for your D44, I'll even deliver!
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
You're totally right. From a cost/benefit perspective, not worth it. But...this project is all about the project. I don't mind doing the fabrication at all...I rather enjoy it. So doing a little fab, dropping 60 lbs or so, and selling the ZF package wouldn't be a bad deal at all, IMO. Not a priority for now, but maybe later.

I owe you an email back BTW. Haven't forgotten...just busy time of year for me.
If the transmission swap would take off 60 pounds, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Sixty pounds off your project is going to be an easy 2-3% improvement in the power to weight ratio, along with a similar corresponding reduction in mass that has to be decelerated and dragged through a corner.

A light vehicle also doesn't need all that extra gear multiplication to accelerate off the corners.

I pulled my 5 speed out of my '69 and put the lighter weight original four speed back in the car, strictly for the weight savings (and I didn't need the extra gearing after I had taken a bunch of weight off the car).
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Yep, the T5 weighs about 75 lbs....the ZF-6 weighs ~145, from what I've read.

With the T5, I can run a 11-15 flywheel...the Dual mass flywheel for the ZF weighs in around 35 lbs, IIRC.

So I agree with you; it's a significant difference that would matter. Since the Kart only weighs about 2000 lbs, the weigh savings is actually more like 9%, I think .

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