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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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My car has a weird rythmic vibration between 50 and 70. I feel it in the steering wheel and I can't seem to find anything loose up front. Any ideas?
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 11:26 AM
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Usually at that speed it's a wheel balancing problem. You also might want to check the alignment and all the U-joints for play. :cheers:


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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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Mine seems to have the same problem. I've ruled out the tires and balance, all u-joints have been replaced, shocks are new. Mine shakes more when cold. Does yours? I was starting to think resonance could be part of my problem since I have no cats. But, I haven't heard of resonance being so bad the car shakes. Or does it?
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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Try switching your wheels/tires front to rear.

Vibration that occurs only when cold is often flat-spotted tires.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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Mine seems to have the same problem. I've ruled out the tires and balance, all u-joints have been replaced, shocks are new. Mine shakes more when cold. Does yours? I was starting to think resonance could be part of my problem since I have no cats. But, I haven't heard of resonance being so bad the car shakes. Or does it?
Have you checked the condition of the power steering fluid?
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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Check it for what - level? color? smell?
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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Check it for what - level? color? smell?
All the above. Low level- refill. Dark color could be a sign of worn out fluid. Easy to change using the turkey baster method (check recent threads). Regardless, if you haven't changed it, now would be a good time.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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I just spent a week chasing down a vibration similar to that on my truck. Balance? Nope. Tires? Nope. CV joints? Nope. Front diff? Nope.

Here's where it becomes relevent (maybe); the hub assemblies are almost identical in construction to the units on the rear of my Vette. I had long ago checked them using the 6-and-12 method. Zero play. Spun 'em by hand. Zero noise.

After fooling with all that other stuff, I ran out of options and changed the hub on the side I thought was causing problems, voila! Vibration gone.

Prior to this fiasco, I've never heard of a wheel bearing that was dead silent, tight, and smooth to rotate that would give that kind of vibration. Now I can tell you conclusively that it happens.

I'd definitely stick the wheels on a Hunter 9700 before I went on that kind of witch hunt though.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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That is what I am suspecting - unfortunately it's going to cost me $125 a side to prove that theory. There is a slight amount of play. Thanks. :sad:
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Default Re: need advice about vibration (brookman)

That is what I am suspecting - unfortunately it's going to cost me $125 a side to prove that theory. There is a slight amount of play. Thanks. :sad:
:cheers: Let me introduce a new variable I just discovered, I had a similar sounding problem, steering wheel would vibrate at say 40 + mph

Guess what I found today? Right front shock locked up tighter than a drum!

I had planned to replace the shocks anyway, when I began to remove the right front, I didn't need to hold the stud while turning the nut (upper).

Shock shaft was locked up so tight that I could (did) remove the castle nut without holding the shaft at all.

I had the car jacked up and wheel off, but when I finally got the nut off the shock, the A arms dropped about an inch.

You can't move this shock with a "ten ton" press!

I now have a cracked and slightly bent shock tower to boot. Installed new shock, vibration gone!

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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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Default Re: need advice about vibration (brookman)

My car has a weird rythmic vibration between 50 and 70. I feel it in the steering wheel and I can't seem to find anything loose up front. Any ideas?
Mine does this too.. but now that I think about it, it's more when cold, and it seems to be magnified more on certain roads. I've heard about a mysterious natural frequency that happens at these speeds.

I thought flatspots were only a problem with nylon tires. I suppose any rubber will take some time to lose it's memory though.
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