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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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Hello All,

My car decided to do something diffrent this morning. I put the lights on and heard a motor running, even after the light went up or down. So I looked at it and the right motor is still spinning even after the light are in place.

I check for a switch or some sort of limiter but could not find one.

Any one got any idea on how to correct this problem. It is a minor porblem but I do not want to burn out the motor.

Thanx

CJ :D :chevy


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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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To turn it off follow the wires to where they connect and disconnect them.

Now to solve your problem you will need to order two bushing kits to repair both motors. Trust me you want to rebuild both of them at the same time.

You may have stripped gears as well, but you can't tell until you get it apart.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Check the MAD catalog. For both headlights the cost would be about $130 for the parts. It is a DYI job.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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What is MAD ? Got a www site?
is that $130 for both motors? I am guessing the bushings are internal to the motor.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Mid America Designs. http://www.madirect.com $130 would be for the parts needed to repair both motors.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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OK so how long can I run it this way with out recking the motors? What is the cost for a new motor?
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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OK so how long can I run it this way with out recking the motors? What is the cost for a new motor?
You can unplug the motors once the doors are up and not worry about wrecking the motors. I went two months with my passenger "lazy eye" until I replaced the bushings.

The bushings themselves are cheap, about $5 each set from any of the corvette supply places. You'll spend as much on shipping as you do for the parts. If you order new gears thats where the expense comes in. If I were you I'd just order the bushings. If I remember rightly my kit came with good instructions. The only "special" tool you will need is an 8 penny nail and a hammer to remove 1 drift pin.

If you are real handy then you can go to your favorite home center and buy 6 nylon bushings that are slightly larger than what you need. You can sand them down to fit. They cost like $0.80 for 2 where I am. I don't rmember the size, but there was a post about it recently. I used this for my passenger motor because I didn't buy 2 kits when the driver's side broke.
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OK so how long can I run it this way with out recking the motors? What is the cost for a new motor?
I don't know how long the motor will last. But your headlights will not open/close long before the motor gives out unless you repair the the bushings/gears. There is a kit for about $5.00 that replaces only the bushings. The one I mentioned for $130.00 includes the bushings and bronze gears. To replace both motors would be about $620 for new and $260 for rebuilds (Heckler's pricing).
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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OK so what is the part # for the bushing? I will try the $5 route first.
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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here, this thread will help. it has the part numbers in it. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=397224
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Go here and order a quantity of 2
http://www.ecklers.com of part number 29304



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Mid America Designs. http://www.madirect.com $130 would be for the parts needed to repair both motors.
Bushings are like $ 5.00 per side. 99 times out of 100, all you need is the bushings

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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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Until you can replace your bushings (I got the brass gear/bushing set so it wouldn't happen again), stand outside your car and reach in the window to turn your lights on. The headlight motor will run for a few seconds after you activate your headlights. Turn the switch on and go to the front of your car and manually 'help' your headlights flip into position while the headlight motors are still churning. As long as you roll them into place before the electric motors stop working, the lights should lock into place.

If this works you won't have to dick around with that manual **** every time you want to use your lights.
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Order the plastic bushings from Mid America or Ecklers. Like the others have said, it's do it yourself. Took me about 2 hours. Recommend you not go with the brass bushings. The plastic ones were made to fail so that they do not burn out the motor. The brass ones will outlast a motor. Guess what is cheaper? When you put everything back together, you have to rotate the headlights back to the closed position. Otherwise, the lights will not work correctly. There is a turn **** on the bottom. Good Luck! :smash:
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Thanx all for the information. I ordered the bushing kits (2) of them. I hope to get them this week so I can replace them this weekend.

Or I may just sell it for a C5... :D Any takers? (I'll still replace the bushing)

CJ :chevy :flag
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BTW, here is the tech tip that will help you with the installation...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...D=16&TopicID=2

Make sure you have a punch to knock out the pin, I spent about 45 minutes trying to get it out with every thing in the toolbox with no luck. I ran to ACE Hardware, bought a punch and had it out in about 30 seconds. :crazy:

The first side took about 1 1/2 hours (cuz' I'm stupid) and the other about 25 minutes if that. Both sides are the same, but in my case there was a learning curve involved ... :jester


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Hey All,

Thanx for all the info and everything. I got my lights done this weekend with no problems. The old plastic pieces were nothing but dust and the driver side was starting to go as well. Glad I got two kits.

The passenger side was a bit tricky but to date this is th eeasierst thing I have had to do on the car once I figured out how to get the motors off etc all was good.

Thanx again :D :chevy CJ


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:cheers: :cheers:


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