dumbest tech question ever
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Racer
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From: ruston la
dumbest tech question ever
Every time I get ready to raise the back of my car I struggle horribly. All I want to do is have both tires off the ground so they can spin freely. So I'm wondering how everyone else is doing it. I'm struggling with what I think might be a u-joint problem at the moment so different strategies would be appreciated. :conehead
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (atotalnincompoop)
i think sears has a 2 and 1/4 ton for something like 30 bucks that doesnt take up all that much room. cheap is good but i think this is one item ill pay a little more for.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
I think he means he can't find a place in the center to jack up the rear (exhaust runs down the center).
I use two jacks, one on each of the rear lift points on the side (for changing flat).
I use two jacks, one on each of the rear lift points on the side (for changing flat).
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (FastVette94)
I use a craftsman floor jack and a jackstand. Do one side and then go over to do the other.
The Helms service manual gives directions for this procedure as well.
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The Helms service manual gives directions for this procedure as well.
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From: ruston la
Re: dumbest tech question ever (atotalnincompoop)
go and get yourself a jack :cheers:
I'm not positive, but I don't think your car has quite the same issue. My problem is jacking up the car and having a place to put the jack stand. You can't just put the jack on the center section; the exhaust is in the way.
So if anyone would like to share any serious comments on how they do it that would be appreciated. Not really in the mood for the B.S. right now. Although what could I have expected? Stupid questions get stupid answers from stupid people.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
I have seen jack adapters from Ecklers and Mid America that are designed to allow you to place the jack under the center of the differential, just for the purpose of lifting the rear end at once.
Look on http://www.catalogs.google.com
Look on http://www.catalogs.google.com
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
Every time I get ready to raise the back of my car I struggle horribly. All I want to do is have both tires off the ground so they can spin freely. So I'm wondering how everyone else is doing it. I'm struggling with what I think might be a u-joint problem at the moment so different strategies would be appreciated. :conehead
than I put a jackstand just to the right and in about 6-8 ins. there is like
an (A) frame two rails about 2-3ins. apart set the stand under that point
the top of my stands are flat so I don't hit any lines. Do the same on the right side. You should see the area I'am talking about. :cheers:
Hope that helps.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (blk90)
Two simple ways and I use them both.
1.) get a jack-a-vette, this replaces teh conventional saddle of your floor jack, it's a vertical piece that fits between the exhaust and lifts the car by the differential.
2.) place a 4x4 on your floor jack and jack up with the 4x4 up against the spare tire.
Place jack stands as needed in the proper place.
1.) get a jack-a-vette, this replaces teh conventional saddle of your floor jack, it's a vertical piece that fits between the exhaust and lifts the car by the differential.
2.) place a 4x4 on your floor jack and jack up with the 4x4 up against the spare tire.
Place jack stands as needed in the proper place.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (atotalnincompoop)
I had the same dilema when raising the rear of my '89. Here's how I got through it.
About 10 to 12 inches rear of the rear jacking point the chasis turns inboard as it makes its way around the rear wheels. This portion of the frame - roughly 8 inches in length - is very substantial and more than adequate to support lifting the car. If you get low, you should recognize the area I'm talking about by the brakelines that run just behind the frame in this area. Place the head of your jack under one (or if the head of your jack is wide enough, use both) of the downward facing frame seams. Careful not to touch the brake lines - the last thing you need is to kink or cut one of these! Slowly raise the car (first make sure you've blocked the front wheels, by the way) until the car reaches the height you need in order to slide a jack stand under the rear jacking point. Once the jack stand is in place, lower the car and repeat the procedure for the other side.
Hope that helps.
About 10 to 12 inches rear of the rear jacking point the chasis turns inboard as it makes its way around the rear wheels. This portion of the frame - roughly 8 inches in length - is very substantial and more than adequate to support lifting the car. If you get low, you should recognize the area I'm talking about by the brakelines that run just behind the frame in this area. Place the head of your jack under one (or if the head of your jack is wide enough, use both) of the downward facing frame seams. Careful not to touch the brake lines - the last thing you need is to kink or cut one of these! Slowly raise the car (first make sure you've blocked the front wheels, by the way) until the car reaches the height you need in order to slide a jack stand under the rear jacking point. Once the jack stand is in place, lower the car and repeat the procedure for the other side.
Hope that helps.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
go and get yourself a jack :cheers:
Hmmm, why didn't I think of that. Good thing there are people as intelligent as you on this forum or else some of us would never figure anything out.
So if anyone would like to share any serious comments on how they do it that would be appreciated. Not really in the mood for the B.S. right now. Although what could I have expected? Stupid questions get stupid answers from stupid people.
Hmmm, why didn't I think of that. Good thing there are people as intelligent as you on this forum or else some of us would never figure anything out.
So if anyone would like to share any serious comments on how they do it that would be appreciated. Not really in the mood for the B.S. right now. Although what could I have expected? Stupid questions get stupid answers from stupid people.
If you would like a suggestion, here is one, otherwise, just hang up and try again.
You can use a long floor jack and go under either side of your Vette in front of either rear wheel and jack it up by one of the mounting points of the suspension. You will be able to jack it up high enough to place a jack stand under each stock jack point on the frame. However, if that's not sufficient enough for you, you might want to ask another idiot. :cheers:
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From: Birmingham AL
Re: dumbest tech question ever (dtorc4)
Back the car up onto Rhino Ramps and then use a floor jack and place jackstands. That way you never twist your car in a way that could break your roof panel or something.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
I saw that http://www.corvettegadgetman.com/ is now selling one of the jack adapters to make this easier. I have one of their EZ Vents and it works very well and you can't beat the price or the customer service.
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Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
I pondered the same thing, how to support it once it is up. I bought a $20.00 hydraulic jack at Pep Boys, a good set of jackstands at Pep Boys( $20.00) and cut on a couple pieces of 2x4s I had lying around. Jack up the car under a suspension point, put the jackstand with (soft)wood piece under the body lift point. Go to the otjher side and repeat. Sturdy support, quick, cheap. No harm to the body.
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From: Springfield Va
Re: dumbest tech question ever (BBA)
I use a 2 ton cross beam adapter, you can get them any number of places, northern tool etc, there is NO jack point at the rear of the car according to GM, so if you use a floor jack, you do do at your own risk. This unit fits on a regular floor jack and acts like a cross beam. Works great.
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From: Wake Forest NC
Re: dumbest tech question ever (ncider)
I use an EZ-Jack which goes between the exhaust pipes. My floor jack is large so I have to back the car on to low ramps that I made from 2"X8" boards frist. After the car is jacked up, I put jack stands at the points where the spare tire jack should be used. I have a convertable, so I have to watch out for the X frame. I found out that it's easier to get to the oil filter with the car jacked up from the back, than when it's jacked up from the front also. [IMG][/IMG]
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From: Surrey BC
Re: dumbest tech question ever (routesixtysix)
I just put a short peice of 2x4/2x6 (whatever is handy at the time) underneath the center spring bolts, and then jack form that point. The bolts will dig into the soft wood, ensuring that it doesn't slip at all, and it's super fast. :cheers:
