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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 09:10 AM
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I tune part time (for fun) at a local dyno shop and I am always looking for and comparing engine dyno data to actual wheel HP. I do not always have this information but when I do have something relevant I like to check numbers. Last week I tuned a 1995 LT1 auto vette that had a mild 355 built that on the engine dyno made 416 HP. I am sure it was run with headers on the engine dyno and a holley EFI stand alone. (Did not see the test but know the dyno shop)

On the chassis dyno the car made 342 RWHP after I was all done tuning it with HP tuners and a OBDII conversion system. (Torque head if you care). In this situation the vette had 3.07 gears/auto trans/stock convertor/ and headers no CATS free flowing exhaust.

That works out to a 18% drivetrain loss. Just some interesting info.

I have seen drivetrain losses as high as 30% with very high stall convertors but this 18% fell right in line with what I expected.
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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Good information !!!
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 10:27 AM
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All that free HP if efficiency could be increased!

Is there an auto or clutchless transmission that isn't eight grand plus with less percent loss?
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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So the 20% guess is reasonably close on a stockish setup. Nice info to know.
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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Any numbers for a manual transmission LT1 C4?
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
All that free HP if efficiency could be increased!

Is there an auto or clutchless transmission that isn't eight grand plus with less percent loss?
I don't really know, other then a manual trans which usually is about 3 to 5 percent less loss.
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 05:56 PM
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I wonder if something like the g force g101a could work and what it would have for loss. There's one on Ebay for $2500.
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I read somewhere that one could expect ~15% DT loss with a stick shift and ~17% with an A4.

When drag racing my prior 35th anni., with a 2,000TC that 17% came out on the money.
One night at Englishtown some guy pulled in with a dyno so I got the RWHP numbers and I had trap speed as well as weight to calculate CHP and the difference was exactly 17% DT loss. That was on a 300chp TPI motor.
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Has there been a difference in percent loss on newer versus older?
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
Has there been a difference in percent loss on newer versus older?
6/8speeds area little better. The ZF auto in the hellcats are supposedly a little better still... around 12% iirc.
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In my observation, nearly all modern stick shift cars are close to 10% loss, chp to rwhp.


Cool data in the first post! Love the real, actual numbers!
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