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Old May 17, 2020 | 04:19 PM
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Looking for some help. Just did a rebuild on my 84 crossfire. 2.02 heads 170cc intake 62cc compression, comp cam Dur 250/260 lift .432/.444. Renegade intake. Ive replaced fuel pump last year with an 85 and replaced the fuel filter. Car runs super lean. Yesterday i was showing 9.5 psi, today i was just under 8. Vacuum seems to be good. Anyone know whats going on? And/or how to fix? I have it timed in at 12 advanced. Im running out of ideas over here.
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If the pressure keeps going down, the pump could be going bad already, it happens. Did you replace the small rubber lines at the tank when you replaced the pump? They do crack.

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the rubber connector between the pump and pickup in the tank. Check that. Mine did the same thing when it failed. Slowly kept losing pressure until one day it just stopped.
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It was a year ago that i did it. From what i can remember it was all good. This only started recently after i did the engine rebuild
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It was a year ago that i did it. From what i can remember it was all good. This only started recently after i did the engine rebuild
Did you pop the cap on the drivers side injector to access the regulator and crank up the fuel pressure?
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Did you pop the cap on the drivers side injector to access the regulator and crank up the fuel pressure?
no not yet. Been kinda scared to lol. Not sure what im doing with it
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no not yet. Been kinda scared to lol. Not sure what im doing with it
WHAT?! First thing you ALWAYS want to check. Set it to 13psi and you will be fine.
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WHAT?! First thing you ALWAYS want to check. Set it to 13psi and you will be fine.
i ordered TBI rebuild kit today. Ill be doing it this weekend
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What if post #3 turns out to be correct? That's an easy check, a common problem, and doesn't cost much. Wrong answers may be regretted!



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What if post #3 turns out to be correct? That's an easy check, a common problem, and doesn't cost much. Wrong answers may be regretted!

how so?
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Either way dont i need to pump up the pressure to 13 psi anyway?
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Originally Posted by Radioway
how so?
If you go to the trouble of adjusting the pressure, and the hose is leaking, you won't solve the problem. If you rebuild the injectors, and the hose is leaking, you will have wasted your time and money, as that won't solve the problem, either. Is it a major problem, or a major expense to check that hose? When the pump was replaced, was that hose replaced with the proper fuel-proof hose?

If you have a good spray pattern from the injectors, and you know the fuel pressure is low, why would you rebuild the injectors?

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If you go to the trouble of adjusting the pressure, and the hose is leaking, you won't solve the problem. If you rebuild the injectors, and the hose is leaking, you will have wasted your time and money, as that won't solve the problem, either. Is it a major problem, or a major expense to check that hose? When the pump was replaced, was that hose replaced with the proper fuel-proof hose?

If you have a good spray pattern from the injectors, and you know the fuel pressure is low, why would you rebuild the injectors?

i kept the original hoses. Its never been an issue till i did all the engine mods. The spray is good but the pressure was showing 9.5 and one day later it was just shy of 8. Even at 9.5 it was running very lean. Ill pull the pump and check all of that first. I was just under the impression that i needed to bump it up to 13 with the mods i did. I was hoping you would jump on and comment as i know your good reputation and trust your advice.
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What ECM are you using since you did the mods, stock? I would go with 13psi and then "maybe" depending on AFR, bump it from there. Keep in mind that you CAN NOT go very high on the pressure using the stock regulator. First off, it may not get to the pressure you want and second, if it does you have to be careful of the bladders. If you were to blow one (either side) you will have a big fire on your hands on a hot motor. I always recommend a TB rebuild kit from (GP Sorensen) they are the best kits so that you know how old those bladders are before raising the FP. I honestly don't think that you will need to go more than 14psi. BTW...There are kits out there that are not the correct kits for the regulated side and you will have issues trying to increase the FP for sure. If you did not get the Sorenson kit, verify that the regulated bladder looks "EXACTLY" like the one you removed. The tiny swivel on the top of the bladder MUST look exactly the same (in height) or you WILL have issues.

Hot Rod has a point, but it's your car, you decide what you want to do and how much work you want to put into this I guess. I hope you get her fixed and running well.
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What ECM are you using since you did the mods, stock? I would go with 13psi and then "maybe" depending on AFR, bump it from there. Keep in mind that you CAN NOT go very high on the pressure using the stock regulator. First off, it may not get to the pressure you want and second, if it does you have to be careful of the bladders. If you were to blow one (either side) you will have a big fire on your hands on a hot motor. I always recommend a TB rebuild kit from (GP Sorensen) they are the best kits so that you know how old those bladders are before raising the FP. I honestly don't think that you will need to go more than 14psi. BTW...There are kits out there that are not the correct kits for the regulated side and you will have issues trying to increase the FP for sure. If you did not get the Sorenson kit, verify that the regulated bladder looks "EXACTLY" like the one you removed. The tiny swivel on the top of the bladder MUST look exactly the same (in height) or you WILL have issues.

Hot Rod has a point, but it's your car, you decide what you want to do and how much work you want to put into this I guess. I hope you get her fixed and running well.
i have not done anything to the ECM its bone stock. I ordered a rebuild kit for both sides for this make and model. I wont go above 13 psi if i can help it
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Okay so on start it holds about 10 psi once i drive it a little bit the pressure drops to about 7 or 8
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Theoretically, your fuel pump should be delivering more fuel than needed, and the pressure regulator should be flowing excess fuel back to the fuel tank to maintain the proper fuel pressure. So which is it: insufficient fuel being delivered, causing the pressure to be low, or excessive fuel being returned to the tank, causing the pressure to be low??

Try this: squeeze the rubber fuel return hose to close off the fuel flow, that's located after the LH injector. If the fuel pressure doesn't go up, you have a deficient fuel delivery problem, If the pressure goes above 15 psi, you have a fuel pressure regulator problem. If the pressure goes up, keep the test short so you don't blow the diaphragm in an injector.

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Okay heres where im at. Adjusted the FPR spring almost all the way not getting any more than 11.5 psi. Also after it heats up to running temp it starts to slowly lose pressure. After driving for a few miles it drops to 8psi. Fuel filter and pump are both new
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