Time for new Tires
Last edited by MatthewMiller; Nov 25, 2020 at 08:51 AM.
Crazy to think their F1 tires are still on 13" diameter wheels! But only for one more season. In 2022 they will move to 18s. Even F1 is skipping over C4 drivers!
F1 cars will look better with the new tires I have seen on their prototypes. The cars are so advanced to be using small rimmed tires. But, I gurantee the engineers have exploited the tire wheel combos to the nth degree. F1 is a marvel in technology.
The 285 was an odd tire. But, tire rack has your Contis and P Zeros. Interesting tire to say the least, the P zero. What car had this size? Must have been an exotic which still requires perelli support.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...40&diameter=17
But these comments are only my 2 cents if you want to purchase the MT's more power to you.
Although the tread width doesn't lie!
Last edited by grandspt; Nov 25, 2020 at 08:20 PM.
But these comments are only my 2 cents if you want to purchase the MT's more power to you.
Although the tread width doesn't lie!
Not saying you are wrong about the tires, they are probably crap, I hardly doubt MT has the R&D to compare to any of the main players.
And here is one more important factor.. when were the tires made? When I went to get my conti's installed I looked at the manufacture date and one was like over a year older.. I said no thank you, order me a NEW set, I didnt pay $900 for a shelved set.. How old were your MT's? Guessing you dont know but maybe Im wrong. If they sat somewhere for a few years it would explain a lot.
Im just saying a lot goes into this whole good/bad tire thing that people dont think of.
Crazy to think their F1 tires are still on 13" diameter wheels! But only for one more season. In 2022 they will move to 18s. Even F1 is skipping over C4 drivers!
Not saying you are wrong about the tires, they are probably crap, I hardly doubt MT has the R&D to compare to any of the main players.
And here is one more important factor.. when were the tires made? When I went to get my conti's installed I looked at the manufacture date and one was like over a year older.. I said no thank you, order me a NEW set, I didnt pay $900 for a shelved set.. How old were your MT's? Guessing you dont know but maybe Im wrong. If they sat somewhere for a few years it would explain a lot.
Im just saying a lot goes into this whole good/bad tire thing that people dont think of.
If you have owned any of these tires I have mentioned then I would like to hear your experience with them too.
But going back to your question, I purchased the MT's from Summit Racing at the beginning of 2017. When I received them I did look at the DOM they were all from 2016.
After mounting them on my rims I was amazed how much narrower they were compared to my worn GSD3's. Even the tire tech made a comment.
Did my ego take a dive after I lost it in the rain? Absolutely, by no means did I want my pristine GS going to the body shop.
Could Lewis Hamilton have saved it? I am sure he could have. But none of us are Lewis Hamilton 😉 especially not me!!
But I also lost it twice in the dry in the summer time during heavy acceleration (I did save it both times). I have owned the car since it was new, I know what the car's limits are on familiar roads. This lack of traction never occurred until I installed the MT's. Traction is not the MT's strong suit that is all I am saying.
I get it most driver's will never use half the performance a C4 (or any sports car for that matter) offers. For those driver's the MT's will be fine. Although I would recommend taking it slow in the rain.
By the way I have had very good luck with Continental Tires.
My current daily driver 2016 Lexus RC300 originally came with Bridgestone Turanza tires stock. After a year and a half all four tires' sidewalls were cracking. The tire had a DOM of 2015. The dealership was not surprised at the cracking but wouldn't do anything for me other than prorate the tire and sell me new Bridgestones. I said no thanks. I replaced them with the Continental Procontact DWS tires, and have been very pleased with them.
And like grandspt said, C4 (most sports car owners), will never exploit the potential of these cars..
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If you have owned any of these tires I have mentioned then I would like to hear your experience with them too.
But going back to your question, I purchased the MT's from Summit Racing at the beginning of 2017. When I received them I did look at the DOM they were all from 2016.
After mounting them on my rims I was amazed how much narrower they were compared to my worn GSD3's. Even the tire tech made a comment.
Did my ego take a dive after I lost it in the rain? Absolutely, by no means did I want my pristine GS going to the body shop.
Could Lewis Hamilton have saved it? I am sure he could have. But none of us are Lewis Hamilton 😉 especially not me!!
But I also lost it twice in the dry in the summer time during heavy acceleration (I did save it both times). I have owned the car since it was new, I know what the car's limits are on familiar roads. This lack of traction never occurred until I installed the MT's. Traction is not the MT's strong suit that is all I am saying.
I get it most driver's will never use half the performance a C4 (or any sports car for that matter) offers. For those driver's the MT's will be fine. Although I would recommend taking it slow in the rain.
By the way I have had very good luck with Continental Tires.
My current daily driver 2016 Lexus RC300 originally came with Bridgestone Turanza tires stock. After a year and a half all four tires' sidewalls were cracking. The tire had a DOM of 2015. The dealership was not surprised at the cracking but wouldn't do anything for me other than prorate the tire and sell me new Bridgestones. I said no thanks. I replaced them with the Continental Procontact DWS tires, and have been very pleased with them.
Your driving abilities, same hardware, roads and I would think over time environmetal conditions. The way I read your post was you lost in the rain the MTs and that was that. And if you mentioned this earlier, please accept my apology right now, I have ADD and miss stuff.Yeah I like the conti's even though I couldnt get a set to fit my wider rear wheels.. unfortunately every time I go to the garage I I smell is tires.. its been 5 yrs since I put them on I bet.. when I dont smell the chemicals leaving the tires its over and I have maybe 1000 miles on the damn things. Oh well, if they are dried out when I get my 3.73 in in the coming weeks it will make it all the more fun. Everyone tells me my tires are gonna be toast anyway after I get the 3.73 in and I bet I will not have the self control to prove them wrong.
By the way. after a respectable amount of time racing road courses in the dry, to me, when Im driving in the rain and pushing it I relive all those experiences.. you quickly find out if your car is neutral in the rain at very low speeds.. I very much like driving hard in the rain when there are no cars around.... but I wont take my c4 out in it because its hours and hours to clean. Ive not driven all that many cars in my lifetime but usually own BMW's and the most neutral car Ive every street driven and raced was a mazda miata... go figure. Damn japs (yep Im not a millenial).
Thanks for not turning this into a head bashing contest, just two people with differing opinions and experiences. I could be wrong just as easily as you can but makes for good conversation. Many times things turn personal here. Like I bet you are sick about hearing about "all my racing experience" lol.. I think I reflect often on that because quite fankly I have very few good things in my life to reflect on but that era is one. It has been the only time in my life where I was able to forget about my troubles without a chemical substance. The feeling of being one with the machine YOU BUILT is something. Its like its you and me, here we go, f it! Just got chills thinking about it. It also made me safer on the road.. I still do stupid things yes, but only when I cannot hurt someone else because I know things can get out of hand when you dont know your machinery on a very intimate basis.
Again, I do like my conti's though have spent very little time at limits unless I made a mistake on the street. At 55, Im hoping for one last road course "school"..and Id feel ok on the conti;s. I dont think my brakes will hold up though... but thats another subject.
If you have owned any of these tires I have mentioned then I would like to hear your experience with them too.
But going back to your question, I purchased the MT's from Summit Racing at the beginning of 2017. When I received them I did look at the DOM they were all from 2016.
After mounting them on my rims I was amazed how much narrower they were compared to my worn GSD3's. Even the tire tech made a comment.
Did my ego take a dive after I lost it in the rain? Absolutely, by no means did I want my pristine GS going to the body shop.
Could Lewis Hamilton have saved it? I am sure he could have. But none of us are Lewis Hamilton 😉 especially not me!!
But I also lost it twice in the dry in the summer time during heavy acceleration (I did save it both times). I have owned the car since it was new, I know what the car's limits are on familiar roads. This lack of traction never occurred until I installed the MT's. Traction is not the MT's strong suit that is all I am saying.
I get it most driver's will never use half the performance a C4 (or any sports car for that matter) offers. For those driver's the MT's will be fine. Although I would recommend taking it slow in the rain.
By the way I have had very good luck with Continental Tires.
My current daily driver 2016 Lexus RC300 originally came with Bridgestone Turanza tires stock. After a year and a half all four tires' sidewalls were cracking. The tire had a DOM of 2015. The dealership was not surprised at the cracking but wouldn't do anything for me other than prorate the tire and sell me new Bridgestones. I said no thanks. I replaced them with the Continental Procontact DWS tires, and have been very pleased with them.
Your driving abilities, same hardware, roads and I would think over time environmetal conditions. The way I read your post was you lost in the rain the MTs and that was that. And if you mentioned this earlier, please accept my apology right now, I have ADD and miss stuff.Yeah I like the conti's even though I couldnt get a set to fit my wider rear wheels.. unfortunately every time I go to the garage I I smell is tires.. its been 5 yrs since I put them on I bet.. when I dont smell the chemicals leaving the tires its over and I have maybe 1000 miles on the damn things. Oh well, if they are dried out when I get my 3.73 in in the coming weeks it will make it all the more fun. Everyone tells me my tires are gonna be toast anyway after I get the 3.73 in and I bet I will not have the self control to prove them wrong.
By the way. after a respectable amount of time racing road courses in the dry, to me, when Im driving in the rain and pushing it I relive all those experiences.. you quickly find out if your car is neutral in the rain at very low speeds.. I very much like driving hard in the rain when there are no cars around.... but I wont take my c4 out in it because its hours and hours to clean. Ive not driven all that many cars in my lifetime but usually own BMW's and the most neutral car Ive every street driven and raced was a mazda miata... go figure. Damn japs (yep Im not a millenial).
Thanks for not turning this into a head bashing contest, just two people with differing opinions and experiences. I could be wrong just as easily as you can but makes for good conversation. Many times things turn personal here. Like I bet you are sick about hearing about "all my racing experience" lol.. I think I reflect often on that because quite fankly I have very few good things in my life to reflect on but that era is one. It has been the only time in my life where I was able to forget about my troubles without a chemical substance. The feeling of being one with the machine YOU BUILT is something. Its like its you and me, here we go, f it! Just got chills thinking about it. It also made me safer on the road.. I still do stupid things yes, but only when I cannot hurt someone else because I know things can get out of hand when you dont know your machinery on a very intimate basis.
Again, I do like my conti's though have spent very little time at limits unless I made a mistake on the street. At 55, Im hoping for one last road course "school"..and Id feel ok on the conti;s. I dont think my brakes will hold up though... but thats another subject.
. I didn't get bent out of shape. Again I am just trying to help out fellow Corvette Forum members. I like the Corvette Forum, learned a lot and still learning. I enjoy most of the technical posts. When I can contribute with any of my experiences I try, that's what it is all about.Oh and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!















