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Old Mar 4, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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My 1984 corvette does not have the air pump and all the tubes on each exhaust manifold have been welded shut. Plus all the plugins for that part of the engine management are unplugged too ( only 2 if I remember correctly ).My car does not have a cat converter either. I was wondering how much of an effect of that loss of air being pumped into each exhaust manifold affects the tuning of the o2 sensor. I know there is only one o2 sensor on the driver side but it was a question that popped into my head the other day. If there is any affect, would a different o2 sensor help with the self tuning, correcting the air/fuel ratios. Seems like it might run a bit richer without that extra air to get the exhaust a little hotter but that may be a wrong assumption.

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The O2 sensor is going to shoot for stoich no matter what so it'll compensate still. I wouldn't be terribly worried about it honestly. A stock 84 computer is so slow it probably really can't see the difference.
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IDK about an 84 but if the O2 sensor is nearer to the manifold, my thought is it shouldn't matter. My reason is that before the O2 sensor gets to temp, the air is being pumped into the manifold and it won't matter. When it gets to temp, the air is going to the cat which won't affect the O2 either.
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True. I appreciate that information. I knew the computer was slow but it was something I wasn't sure about and the lack of air being pumped into the exhaust causing it to be hotter for the o2 sensor where mine wasn't. It runs pretty good and gets decent mileage. Would a cat converter work on my car without the exta air pumped into the cat like the stock system was set up to be?
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True. I appreciate that information. I knew the computer was slow but it was something I wasn't sure about and the lack of air being pumped into the exhaust causing it to be hotter for the o2 sensor where mine wasn't. It runs pretty good and gets decent mileage. Would a cat converter work on my car without the exta air pumped into the cat like the stock system was set up to be?
The air is only really there for cold start... just to keep the enrichment from fouling it... at least that's how it orks on my later cars. Pump runs for 45 seconds or so then shuts off and that's that.. any decent cat should be fine.
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The air is only really there for cold start... just to keep the enrichment from fouling it... at least that's how it orks on my later cars. Pump runs for 45 seconds or so then shuts off and that's that.. any decent cat should be fine.
I didn't know the air was only for cold start. My car sometimes fouls a plug during cold start but clears after about 30 seconds. Plus I saw fuel pulling in the front of the mouth of the intake runners with the top plate pulled after a cold start). I only saw air pumped into the exhaust manifolds from the pipes on each exhaust tube and the long one that ran under the car to the cat. I thought that the part poking inside the air cleaner was just drawing cleanish air from there. If you could point that out in the shop manual on how that works then maybe that would explain my cold start fouling problem. I still have the pump on the car for the accessory belt but like I said, the rest of it has be deleted. I was curious about what the 2 electrical conectors that go to that pump actually did for the car during normal running or start ups. I just thought it was for polution control, pumping more air into the exhaust manifolds and the cat converter to help it run a bit hotter to help burn the exhaust and heat the cat converter.

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