oil cooler question
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Burning Brakes
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oil cooler question
ok so while I am in there making a mess of anything and everything in sight - I came across the oil cooler - more hoses - I am wondering from those in the know (basically everyone here but me) - do I keep the cooler, remove it -
I am not sure how efficient it is - I suppose any cooler is better than no cooler - maybe?
then use the actual cooler hoses or try the 11138 napa hose - saw a video from someone that used that hoses bends to approximate the original lines
any thoughts or opinions welcome
thanks
Sean
I am not sure how efficient it is - I suppose any cooler is better than no cooler - maybe?
then use the actual cooler hoses or try the 11138 napa hose - saw a video from someone that used that hoses bends to approximate the original lines
any thoughts or opinions welcome
thanks
Sean
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I have it, I kept it when i changed engines.
I tend to look at it more as an oil warmer in cold climates, as it heats the oil with coolant in the mornings. Coolant gets warmed faster. Depends whether you drive in Ohio winters much.
It does not keep oil temps below coolant temps, oil temps tend to stabilize about 10-20F above your coolant temp. However most who have added or removed a factory cooler say it made about 10F difference in the oil temps once stabilized. So if you're cruising at 215F (oil), it would be about 205 with the cooler in place.
I tend to look at it more as an oil warmer in cold climates, as it heats the oil with coolant in the mornings. Coolant gets warmed faster. Depends whether you drive in Ohio winters much.
It does not keep oil temps below coolant temps, oil temps tend to stabilize about 10-20F above your coolant temp. However most who have added or removed a factory cooler say it made about 10F difference in the oil temps once stabilized. So if you're cruising at 215F (oil), it would be about 205 with the cooler in place.
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I completely uninstalled mine and plugged the block. With the full synthetic oils of today, it's kind of unnecessary for a street car. In my view anyway. Which, admittedly, is an amateur view, but I haven't even noticed a difference in temps since it was removed.
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The PO disconnected it and left the adapter in place.
I removed the adapter and was able to use a larger oil filter. I can add about another 8 oz or so. Doesn't sound like a lot, but with oil capacity, more is better.
I removed the adapter and was able to use a larger oil filter. I can add about another 8 oz or so. Doesn't sound like a lot, but with oil capacity, more is better.
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I tend to look at it more as an oil warmer in cold climates, as it heats the oil with coolant in the mornings. Coolant gets warmed faster.
Next one I have Ill abandon that system and use a real oil cooler.
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Mine would run in the 260-270 range with any sort of abuse so I added in a true cooler... the linked thread a few posts up. So far it drops with the fans being on. I'll have to update that post.
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the thing is... you start to run better stability on internal parts at lower temps... so it really depends. A street car really doesn't need it with modern oil.
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that is my - well concern - I use a semi synthetic oil - so not full syn. removing the hoses would clean things up and make maintaining a little easier - but keeping internals cooler is appealing - especially since I am not sure how well the car was maintained before I got it - I have been trying to peck away at getting a baseline for what has been maintained and what has not - this just got in the way as I was changing hoses then looked at the "Y" connection while I have been messing around with the fuel lines - thought what a mess - then saw the price - and thought well let me see how necessary that is - that's when I turned to all of you - as always many great words of wisdom
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came across this in my searching - sometimes my semi - local napa does not or cannot get the parts very quickly - This Dayco 87867 HVAC Heater Hose replaces NAPA 11138, ACDelco 18229L, Gates 19138, CARQUEST 19138, Honda 79721-TK8-A00, Honda 79725-SV4-000, Duralast E87867, OEM parts and is perfect for replacement or a performance upgrade.
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also - does anyone rune semi-synthetic - will that run cool enough - this is a street driven car - if that ever changed I would add an oil cooler - not that I have decided which way to go -