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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vetteLT193
In the USA it is generally normal... you flash to say move the F over. You also flash if someone is trying to squeeze in front of you and that is saying "proceed, you have room"

On the 66 mentioned in this thread the headlights and the flip motors are on separate switches. You rotate the lights up with a switch, turn the lights on and off with another. That was nice... basically when you are in traffic you can leave the lights up but off... then flash as needed.

C4, flash to pass means just turn the lights on. The flash part is the difference between lights on and off and there isn't a bigger change than rolling the lights over. It's better than a normal car honestly
And you will continue with parking lights glowing all the time but headlights will be off. Then again, you expose those precious plastic headlamp bulbs to possible damaging debris. One can always install the heavier glass lens bulbs at the expense of destroying the plastic motor gears. Then again you can install the bronze gears if they are still available. Not really a fun exercise but I have had to do it once on my '96.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 11:37 PM
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I'd always heard Canadians were so nice. Must be another internet rumor.

Anyway, to the O.P.'s question, I'm not aware of a kit, but it would be possible, in theory, to tie the high-beam switch to the fog lights.

You'd need to spend time with the electrical schematic to figure out where to tap in to the high beam switch, and if there is power to it when the headlights are off. You'd also need a relay to disable the feature when the headlights are on so the normal high beams don't turn the fog lights on.

That being said, is it worth all that effort considering how clueless most drivers are? Witness a few of the comments in this thread alone.
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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I'd always heard Canadians were so nice. Must be another internet rumor.

Anyway, to the O.P.'s question, I'm not aware of a kit, but it would be possible, in theory, to tie the high-beam switch to the fog lights.

You'd need to spend time with the electrical schematic to figure out where to tap in to the high beam switch, and if there is power to it when the headlights are off. You'd also need a relay to disable the feature when the headlights are on so the normal high beams don't turn the fog lights on.

That being said, is it worth all that effort considering how clueless most drivers are? Witness a few of the comments in this thread alone.
Interesting. I(and most of the free world) have heard that Americans are arrogant and self-righteous. Obviously NOT a rumor.

PS: Keep in mind who started this ****.
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by arbee
Interesting. I(and most of the free world) have heard that Americans are arrogant and self-righteous. Obviously NOT a rumor.

PS: Keep in mind who started this ****.
I think it got its little feelings hurt !! Gee, I believe our Canadian neighbor seems to be arrogant and self-righteous! I remember you started this "****" as usual! You add nothing to this forum but your smart-*** mouth and little practical advice! You're nothing but a self-righteous jerk as near as I can tell !! If you ever say anything nice please flag it so we can all see it !!
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by arbee
Interesting. I(and most of the free world) have heard that Americans are arrogant and self-righteous. Obviously NOT a rumor.

PS: Keep in mind who started this ****.
I would like to ask if it is true, as I have heard, that Target stores were only allowed in Canada if they pronouned their name as "Tar-Zhay" (like French)? Surely a country's government regulating agency wouldn't be that arrogant, would they?
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SloJo
I think it got its little feelings hurt !! Gee, I believe our Canadian neighbor seems to be arrogant and self-righteous! I remember you started this "****" as usual! You add nothing to this forum but your smart-*** mouth and little practical advice! You're nothing but a self-righteous jerk as near as I can tell !! If you ever say anything nice please flag it so we can all see it !!
Oh you poor misinformed soul! Must be hard living with that kind of thought process. Have you not been on here long enough to know that you can't "hurt my feelings"? That's for the Y and Z generation.
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SloJo
I think it got its little feelings hurt !! Gee, I believe our Canadian neighbor seems to be arrogant and self-righteous! I remember you started this "****" as usual! You add nothing to this forum but your smart-*** mouth and little practical advice! You're nothing but a self-righteous jerk as near as I can tell !! If you ever say anything nice please flag it so we can all see it !!
Have you not been on this forum long enough to know that you can't "hurt my feelings"? How old are you anyway. That "hurt feelings" BS is for the Y and Z generation.

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I would like to ask if it is true, as I have heard, that Target stores were only allowed in Canada if they pronouned their name as "Tar-Zhay" (like French)? Surely a country's government regulating agency wouldn't be that arrogant, would they?
Never heard that one. You aren't really asking ME about arrogant government leadership are you? Seriously?
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 06:28 PM
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Have you not been on this forum long enough to know that you can't "hurt my feelings"? How old are you anyway. That "hurt feelings" BS is for the Y and Z generation.



Never heard that one. You aren't really asking ME about arrogant government leadership are you? Seriously?
Why yes, yes I am.
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 06:31 PM
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I would like to ask if it is true, as I have heard, that Target stores were only allowed in Canada if they pronouned their name as "Tar-Zhay" (like French)? Surely a country's government regulating agency wouldn't be that arrogant, would they?

Case Study 7: The $2.5 Billion Cross-Border Expansion Mistake by Target. Less than two years after entering Canada, Target shocked the retail world by pulling out. After accumulating $2.5 billion in losses, the Minneapolis-based company shut down all of its 133 Canadian locations and laid off 17,600 employees.
Sounds like Canada is not the place to invest money in a store! If everyone up there acts like Arbee I can understand why they left!
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 06:42 PM
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Case Study 7: The $2.5 Billion Cross-Border Expansion Mistake by Target. Less than two years after entering Canada, Target shocked the retail world by pulling out. After accumulating $2.5 billion in losses, the Minneapolis-based company shut down all of its 133 Canadian locations and laid off 17,600 employees.
Sounds like Canada is not the place to invest money in a store! If everyone up there acts like Arbee I can understand why they left!
I suppose there may be a little jealousy. Justin Trudeau's father likened Canada to a mouse beside an elephant. Everytime the elephant twitches the mouse feels it. Of course, Justin amended the thought later by likening Canada more to a moose but still massively outweighed.

I suppose there are some countries disappointed that the Obama apology tour of the world has passed and is long forgotten as it very well should be.

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Originally Posted by SloJo
I only did this at night, as a safety measure and not in my current Corvette. I had a 66 in my younger years and drove on a lot of 2 lane highways after dark. I don't drive after dark now unless I absolutely have to. I don't know why you would want to do this in the daytime! The neighbor up "North" always seems to have a snarky comment that has no bearing on the OP question! Like I said, courtesy is hard to come by today!
this was common courtesy back in the 50's thru the 70's but has been phased out by drivers that don't GAF about their fellow motorists.

Originally Posted by jframe
Actually flashing to pass is also used to get dumbasses out of the left lane when you are going faster than they are. However, in my neck of the woods, they just give you the blank stare and slow down even further. They have no idea that it is one of the basic courtesys of the road.
how true, how true!
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Yes, it is common coutesy practice on highways in the lower 48. Somewhat of a professional courtesy to fellow truckers. BTW, the only time, if not to let okay to pull back over in front, I flash a headlight is to let oncoming traffic know there is an LEO down the way that they are about to meet.....slow down to avoid a ticket. Also, years ago, oncoming truckers would hold up the "V" fingers to alert sometimes. If you hold up your hand in the windshield with your hand opened to the side and do a rowing motion it means let it roll, no LEO's in front and clear to move on down quickly. Ahh, such memories of times past. Of course, so much of the younger generations are quick to discount the tried and proven of the older generations.
same as my first reply above.
if you can't tell, this issue is a pet peeve of mine along with not dimming your lights to oncoming traffic, and that IS against the law.
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by arbee
Interesting. I(and most of the free world) have heard that Americans are arrogant and self-righteous. Obviously NOT a rumor.

PS: Keep in mind who started this ****.
Okay, I agree the response wasn't polite. OTOH, maybe I'm misreading your posts, but it really sounds like you don't understand how this works...

Originally Posted by arbee
My question is WHY? If I'm travelling down a highway, why would I GAS if someone is passing me? In February, I did a 14,000 km trip through four provinces and twenty-five states and not once did anyone "flash to pass" me.
Flash to pass, optical horn or light horn, means letting the left lane hog know that you'd like to pass and requesting them to move over. Maybe you didn't intend it, but in print your post reads as "what kind of dummy thinks this is a thing?" It seems a number of people here don't understand this is a feature on most cars built since the late '80s. It's a thing.

On the plus side, if nobody has done it to you, it means you're probably not blocking the passing lane, so that's good.

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The dumb thing is doing what you describe. Do you really think the average intelligent person is going to trust someone that "they can go"? That's what traffic laws are for. Wait for the dotted line, check YOURSELF that it is safe to pass and make your move quickly and safely. Your "permission" is not required.
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I can just see it now at an accident investigation. Police Officer: "Why did you pull out when that other car was coming"? You: "The guy in front of me "flashed me it was ok."
This is where I really don't get where you're coming from. "The guy in front?" Did the Canadian market Corvette have a French battle-tank transmission? Six speeds, all in reverse? How would the guy in front flash the car behind them?

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Hilarious dude! So you think a professional truck driver needs you to let him know when he can pull in. How precious!
Letting trucks know that the trailer is clear and they have room to move over, or even helping them out by making room for them to change lanes is pretty common in the US. Mostly among interstate truckers, but cars in the know will do it too. You'll usually get some thank-you blinks from them.

But do you see where someone might think they're getting a hard time from someone who is misinterpreting the question?
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I see this thread has gotten way off topic but I would like to say, I grew up in Kansas where we had mostly two lane roads so I remember flash to pass. It's a rural thing. The last thirty years I've been driving in densely populated areas. I can't even remember when I last drove on a two lane road. I never even get to use my hi beams. Since about 83% of the population of the US live in urban areas I'm not surprised most people have never heard of flash to pass. Not about being rude or not caring. You don't flash your lights on a busy freeway.
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RWDsmoke
I see this thread has gotten way off topic but I would like to say, I grew up in Kansas where we had mostly two lane roads so I remember flash to pass. It's a rural thing. The last thirty years I've been driving in densely populated areas. I can't even remember when I last drove on a two lane road. I never even get to use my hi beams. Since about 83% of the population of the US live in urban areas I'm not surprised most people have never heard of flash to pass. Not about being rude or not caring. You don't flash your lights on a busy freeway.
Everything you said is very true, but that being said we have certain members on here that make snarky comments that are totally uncalled for! Just because they have never seen it done doesn't give them the right to make rude comments to someone who is asking a legitimate question! I think we could use better administrators on here to cut down on inappropriate comments that have no bearing on the subject except to ridicule the OP. And, if you check some of these rude people that's what most of their comments consist of. So, it really just depends on what kind of group you want to have on here, a friendly group trying to help each other or a bunch of smart asses poking fun at the new members!
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 04:37 AM
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Ok I think I get it now, "flash to pass" means "flash to get out of my way" is that it ?

That I would do.
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I love the flash to pass feature but I am not a big flash to pass person. I do use it to alert folks to crashes and cops or debris on the road etc. My favorite thing about it is that at night with your low beams on, when you pull the lever back to use the feature, the low beams stay on too. It gives a lot of light and can help you see a lot better approach steep hills or tight turns when it is pitch black out. I used it a ton in dark shipping yard when I drove a semi years back.
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Hilarious dude! So you think a professional truck driver needs you to let him know when he can pull in.
YES.
"Pro" truck drivers need all the help that they can get, to not **** it up. In fact we have some "pro" truckers right here on these very forums who've shown us justhow"professional", semi truck drivers really are.


OP, Leave your fog lamps on all the time (fog lamp button depressed). When you want to flash, flick/alternate the headlight switch between "Off" and "parking" lights and your fogs with flash on and off. I do it a LOT, for "Left Lane Losers". And yes, that even includes "professional" truckers.



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I love the flash to pass feature but I am not a big flash to pass person. I do use it to alert folks to crashes and cops or debris on the road etc. My favorite thing about it is that at night with your low beams on, when you pull the lever back to use the feature, the low beams stay on too. It gives a lot of light and can help you see a lot better approach steep hills or tight turns when it is pitch black out. I used it a ton in dark shipping yard when I drove a semi years back.


Run a jumper wire from the low beam side of the hi/lo beam switch, to the powered side of the hi/lo switch....then you have both on all the time that the "hi's" are on, w/o having to hold the lever.
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I don't think this would be very useful except at night. During the day it is going to take a long time to get the headlights up, make the flash, then put them down. You could do something with the fog lights, but they are not really bright enough to be noticed during the day.

As for someone saying it is standard, I don't think that is true. Every C4 I have ever been in, you had to turn the headlights on for the headlights to light up. There is no "flash to pass" as there is in most modern cars where they come on by pulling the turn signal stalk.
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