CCM differences
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CCM differences
Hello,
I have 1992 C4 where was CCM death. New or even rebuild units are quite difficult to found.
RockAuto have had allmost every week one on shop, number: 16159188. But unit which was on car is other: 88999216 and this one hasn't come to shop.
So, now wondering what is differences on these 2 CCM? Would that other work? For me, no mather with VIN or mileage...
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...&pt=2888&jsn=9
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...&pt=2888&jsn=8
I have 1992 C4 where was CCM death. New or even rebuild units are quite difficult to found.
RockAuto have had allmost every week one on shop, number: 16159188. But unit which was on car is other: 88999216 and this one hasn't come to shop.
So, now wondering what is differences on these 2 CCM? Would that other work? For me, no mather with VIN or mileage...
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...&pt=2888&jsn=9
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...&pt=2888&jsn=8
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16159188 would have been the original OE for '92 & '93, the 88999216 would have been a number change and a service part for the OE 16159188. Internal differences (none that would hinder operation). What is the label on your 1992 now?
What makes you feel you need a CCM? Diagnostics that hint CCM replacement?
What makes you feel you need a CCM? Diagnostics that hint CCM replacement?
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Doesn't crank/start, digital screen death. Will crank if bybass ccm, but of course doesn't start because ccm still doesn't give permission for injectors.
100% it's death. It's not even original, because label says that ccm is 1995... so it's replaced once before....
Noe wonderin what can kill it, I have opened whole interior/dash harness but haven't found anything yet. Maybe problems on ground...?
100% it's death. It's not even original, because label says that ccm is 1995... so it's replaced once before....
Noe wonderin what can kill it, I have opened whole interior/dash harness but haven't found anything yet. Maybe problems on ground...?
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Since you're not concerned with mileage and VIN then you could (I believe prefered anyway) just buy a used from a '92 or '93 and then you would only have to use a procedure to match the resistance the CCM desires for CRANK/Fuel Enable or use a device for Fuel Enable. They're quite inexpensive and not a difficult install to wire. Even if a RA purchase was an option you would still need to do a 'relearn' of whatever key. I'd prefer a used vs an RA purchase. If you could locate a '92 or '93 in Finland or close and if they had it currently in a car that CRANKS/RUNS you would only have to cut your key on a key with matching resistance or just do a resistor by-pass for CRANK.
I don't believe the RA buy is wise!
I don't believe the RA buy is wise!
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Just wondering... Like on RockAuto, there is 2 different unit... Has to be some differences? But what?
For same year, and if you did look those links, there is 2 OEM number for ccm and on other have only one OEM number for ccm...
For same year, and if you did look those links, there is 2 OEM number for ccm and on other have only one OEM number for ccm...
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Both CCM are identical. You DO NOT want to use RA as a source for a CCM for your car. NEVER RA for anything ECM, PCM or an electronic module of any sort for your car.
Do you have a contact in the USA who can forward parts to you in Finland?
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Would be nice to know which capacitor etc there will be problem. Big job to solder all out and check if no any idea where problem can be,,,
I did check it with magnifying glass but didn't see anything...
I did check it with magnifying glass but didn't see anything...
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