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Old Sep 20, 2023 | 05:22 AM
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Hi, my name is Damian and I live in Poland. Three years ago I bought a 1987 Corvette automatic in Fremont, NH.
A month ago the engine in my car started to die, after starting it it continued to drive. Code 42 appeared, I replaced the wiring and a new ignition control module. Now there is no code, but the engine keeps turning off.
I noticed that this happens at low speeds and engine revs (in the city), when I drive faster there is no problem. Sometimes the code 34 MAF appears, but it has always been there since I bought the car and it doesn't bother me. What else can I do?
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 02:40 PM
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your statement "code 43....doesnt bother me" caught my eye. The MAF sensor is used by the computer to set fuel/air ratios. If it is having issues with the sensor or wiring the computer could be starving or drowning the car. Check for vacuum leaks and test / clean / replace MAF or it's wiring.
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Old Sep 24, 2023 | 04:17 PM
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Bad maf does cause turn off start by fixing that.
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Old Oct 1, 2023 | 08:16 AM
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I replaced the MAF sensor and relay, IAC Valve.
Everything is probably ok. Thank you for your answers.
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Old Oct 1, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Good to hear! I've had bad maf in multiple cars just cause it to turn off. Bad when going out into traffic lol
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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 10:36 PM
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Will a bad maf do the same on a 94? I've been having an issue with the car just shutting off with no warning at all. Then sometimes it will start right up again, sometimes it won't start for hours. No spark, no fuel. No voltage at the fuel pump. No square wave from the opti.
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Not 100% positive and someone will correct if I am wrong but if you loose data from MAF computer should best guess it and run (if somewhat poorly).

When you say "won't start" and no spark, etc do you have lights and does engine turn at all? This feels like a bad ground/cable issue just from your statement.

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Will a bad maf do the same on a 94? I've been having an issue with the car just shutting off with no warning at all. Then sometimes it will start right up again, sometimes it won't start for hours. No spark, no fuel. No voltage at the fuel pump. No square wave from the opti.
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Old Oct 23, 2023 | 05:31 PM
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Not 100% positive and someone will correct if I am wrong but if you loose data from MAF computer should best guess it and run (if somewhat poorly).

When you say "won't start" and no spark, etc do you have lights and does engine turn at all? This feels like a bad ground/cable issue just from your statement.
I have power to everything. The engine will crank forever. All lights. Just no power to the fuel pump and no square wave from the opti. Not sure if a bad Opti will deny power to the fuel pump.

I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to hijack the thread, just looking for a similarity that might help with my own issue.
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A bad opti should not deny power to the fuel pump, if you turn the key into accessory you should hear it priming regardless of whether the opti has power or not.
If you do not hear that noise from the rear and measured the voltage like I assume you did, it might be worth checking the wiring. Most of the time even worn out
fuel pumps still pump, just with low pressure given they have voltage. If its not working at all then you know.
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Originally Posted by eawatling
A bad opti should not deny power to the fuel pump, if you turn the key into accessory you should hear it priming regardless of whether the opti has power or not.
If you do not hear that noise from the rear and measured the voltage like I assume you did, it might be worth checking the wiring. Most of the time even worn out
fuel pumps still pump, just with low pressure given they have voltage. If its not working at all then you know.
It does prime. I've heard it and I've measured the voltage from in the cabin with long wire while I turned the key. After it primes, it does not get voltage. Prime works, but no voltage after that while it's cranking. I have changed the fuel pump relay, just to be sure.
And no spark at any time.

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That's interesting. I don't envy your issue, I have one of my own and can understand the frustration. Have you considered your fuel pump control module? Its clearly getting enough power to prime, so it should have enough to pump at least a little. It must be a data issue. This could stem from the ecu or standalone control module.
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Originally Posted by eawatling
That's interesting. I don't envy your issue, I have one of my own and can understand the frustration. Have you considered your fuel pump control module? Its clearly getting enough power to prime, so it should have enough to pump at least a little. It must be a data issue. This could stem from the ecu or standalone control module.
I have thought about the ecm. I've heard that if the opti does not send it it's reference signal, then the injectors won't work and the plugs won't be firing because the computer won't have a signal telling it to do either of those things. However, that doesn't stop the fuel pump from running. I'm not how the fuel pump would be involved. If I had unlimited money, if just start replacing stuff (like the opti, timing chain, water pump, plug wires and plugs) and call it preventative maintenance. Unfortunately, that's not the case, and so my car continues to sit.
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Well, here's the most likely cause. It was expensive, but at least I won't wonder if it's going to quit 1,000 miles from now. Since I'm at 105,000 miles, it could go at any time, so I feel like it should be done to avoid being stranded somewhere anyhow. I'll also do the timing chain while it's already apart.
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