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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 02:22 PM
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Can any tell me if i can put a 86 tpi engine in my 89 will i have to change ecm ? 86 is auto 89 is ZF6.
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Old Oct 19, 2023 | 02:42 PM
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Should be a direct bolt in I believe. You ought to be able to use either ECM with either wiring harness but there might be a few wiring differences, but nothing major. Might be easier to just swap the 86 long block in and keep the 89 TPI and wiring harness.

I think the main issue might be the cold start injector stuff.

You looking at that red 86 in Albuquerque NM?


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Thank you for the information. No not looking at 86 in New Mexico.
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It will physically bolt in but there were improvements made between 86 and 89. In 87 the sbc got roller lifters, roller chain, and coupes got aluminum heads. The engine management is different, both ecm. and engine wiring harness. The 86 engine isn't as powerful as your 89. Unless you're a getting a super deal I would pass. What is wrong with the engine that is in it?
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The 89 needs a complete rebuild and i have that 86 on my stand in very good condition that i bought out of a recked car with only 45k on it and got it really cheep? so was thinking that would be the way to go ??
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May be an external vs internal balance issue. Does the ‘86 motor have a one piece rear main seal?
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1986 was the first year of the one piece rear seal and oil pan gasket. The convertibles aka pace cars also got aluminum heads, while the coupes had Iron.
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Originally Posted by GaryInArizona
The 89 needs a complete rebuild and i have that 86 on my stand in very good condition that i bought out of a recked car with only 45k on it and got it really cheep? so was thinking that would be the way to go ??
If you are flipping it I would swap intakes because I believe 86 still used cold start injector. Swap sensors that won't plug into the 1989 harness connectors. Then let her rip.
if the 89 is a keeper I would get the 89 engine out and apart then decide. I really wouldn't want to give up the roller cam and so much better heads. If the the 89 engine is done , I would get the 89s aluminum heads redone and put them on the 86 short block. Possibly replace the cam and for sure install a roller chain.
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Thanks for the help i think i will put the 86 engine in and take my time rebuilding the 89 i know it won't have as much power but at least i can still drive it for now.
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Originally Posted by Kevova
1986 was the first year of the one piece rear seal and oil pan gasket. The convertibles aka pace cars also got aluminum heads, while the coupes had Iron.
All late 86' L98 had aluminum heads not just the convertibles...
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Originally Posted by GaryInArizona
Thanks for the help i think i will put the 86 engine in and take my time rebuilding the 89 i know it won't have as much power but at least i can still drive it for now.
Like others have suggested, just swap the heads and intake over to the 86 block, run all the 89 sensors and ECM. New head gaskets, freshen the heads with new valve seals and as a few others suggested a roller chain and a small cam upgrade would not hurt. with roughly 10hp difference between the two motors, I don't think you would notice any difference. Well good luck with your temporary swap.
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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevova
1986...The convertibles aka pace cars also got aluminum heads, while the coupes had Iron.
Fake news... most 1986 Z51 coupes got the aluminum heads and most 1986 coupes manufactured after February or so also had aluminum heads. I have a January 1986 build 1986 Z51 and it came with the aluminum heads... this is because they had trouble with the castings early on in the production run, so some of the early cars had the iron heads. Also reference Cor-vette Specs C4 by Mike Antonick page 85 to collaborate what I've just indicated.

Gary, the 86 will work fine with the 89 ECU, you can use the 1989 intake or get a plug for the cold start valve, a lot of people did this anyway, and it was common to swap 1989 ECU into the earlier cars, it was better mapping. Don't know about the Automatic part, I avoid automatics in a sports car.

If you do have the rare 1986 TPI with iron heads, you can swap the heads if they are good.
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Thank you for your information that's what i will do and yes my 86 engine has aluminum heads it was in a coupe.
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I'm pretty sure that the '86 & '89 used the same ECU ... just different proms and tunes ...
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