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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 10:01 AM
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tequila and tuneport, question:
When I swapped in the HLH 3200 into my 85 automatic, I did it because of the TCC lockout. That dropped the chugging and feeling of stack shifting. It also dropped a hesitation when accelerating from a dead stop.

The other thing it did was totally correct a wandering idle. I could never get it to idle correctly prior to this. My 85 basically turned into my 87auto that i had at the time, but with the higher tcc stall which makes the 85 faster off the line.

From what you see in the files, can you see how it somehow managed the idle differently than the earlier programs?

That made me wonder if people with manual transmission 85s, could benefit in having their idle more stable. For example, my neighbours kid, Dominic.

He purchased an 85 and is slowly refurbishing it in his grandmothers garage. Can you tell if there is an update that would work for his manual transmission 85? To get a better idle.

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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
dang lol. sorry bud, obviously, I forgot who it was. Looks like there are a couple from tuned port 90 available if the OP wants to do it. I’ll stop plugging you in correctly natty!
That's actually the first time you've ever plugged me in there.

Might be vacation time, Viking. Ha...
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
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From what you see in the files, can you see how it somehow managed the idle differently than the earlier programs?
Can you tell if there is an update that would work for his manual transmission 85? To get a better idle.
The extra 50 rpm should help the idle a bit (550 rpm in gear), but I think they also reduced the tps% threshold for entry into PID control from 2.34% to 1.17% (at 0568) making it less likely to enter idle PID control and/or easier to enter throttle following mode. This may be a bit more forgiving with an improperly adjusted tps sensor and throttle (voltage and airflow too high) but seems counter intuitive to me. I'd rather have it idle in PID control than in t/f mode, but t/f mode may possibly be more stable since it is not controlling anything and only holding a static position (relative to the tps%).

For a 1985 MK2 4+3 car, I'd say that HLP 3266 would be the preferred go-to bin with its 750 rpm idle speed (HLP 2297: 650 rpm). For an MH5 car, HLS 2308 appears to be the latest.

Later model year 4+3 cars settled on a 700 rpm idle.


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fantastic info. Im pretty sure these programs are out there to download and an 85 owner could pay to have this loaded onto a chip.

I will mention this to Dom
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So, many months down the line, I have the car road legal, passed emissions, etc etc. Fuel injectors and EGR seemed to be the main issue, however, I still have a wandering idle, it's not as bad as before, and it's certainly more manageable. I've just started data logging with WinALDL, I'm still figuring things out with TunerProRt. I don't know what the data means if I'm being honest, even when putting the data into ALDL View. I was wondering if anyone could take a look at the log and give me a quick overview of what the car is doing.
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