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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 05:36 PM
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Has Tom dropped off from this forum? He was on here regularly for years, but seems to have vanished. Anyone heard from him lately?

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that has been happening on lots of forums lately. they can't understand that these forums are not the only game in town. Facebook has become very popular with many enthusiast type groups available. the mods and such have been biting the hands that feed them.

And Facebook sucks. Can’t find anything. At least here the is 20 years of accessible content.

and most of what is on Facebook is extremely ignorant or Flatout wrong content.
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Odd, I was just wondering that the other day...
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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 06:52 PM
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@Tom400CFI

Anyone try to PM him?
I tagged him so he'll get a email notification about it with a link to the thread
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He has been on the thirdgen forums the last week or so.


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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 07:13 PM
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I was wondering about him and VetteOz too.
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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 07:28 PM
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Yeah, Tom left over an APPARENT misunderstanding from a post that prompted a temporary ban. After finding and PM'ing him at 3rd gen (6 mos ago), it sounded like the post was cut & pasted from years before? And, that he wished the mods would have looked further into the reason for banning -- to determine if it was really valid/deserved.

I don't know myself as I didn't "participate" in the thread questioned. It did look odd that the only questionable post (from his last locked thread) didn't appear anywhere IN that thread...one that was quoted and placed by someone else.

It's a shame because he was in the middle of the best intake comparison since 10xTT -- and was redoing it using the stock cam vs the GIANT cam used in 10xTT disfavoring more modest builds. Maybe stage 2 comparison could have followed with a mild cam? We might never know.
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Originally Posted by SJW
Has Tom dropped off from this forum? He was on here regularly for years, but seems to have vanished. Anyone heard from him lately?

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yes he left. had a disagreement with mod
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yes he left. had a disagreement with mod
that has been happening on lots of forums lately. they can't understand that these forums are not the only game in town. Facebook has become very popular with many enthusiast type groups available. the mods and such have been biting the hands that feed them.

these forums are not in the business to give people places to post. they are in business to drive advertising and to be able to mine data to sell back to the OEM and aftermarket manufacturers. They look for user fixes and such that then OEMs adopt.

if they drive out the long time valuable contributors, there are nothing left but the folks on (lets say various Corvettes forums here) here just to post, that don't own a Corvette, are posers, the plants that stir up the political area etc, are new folks (not criticizing new folks) that are looking for solutions not contributing solutions


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Originally Posted by drcook
that has been happening on lots of forums lately. they can't understand that these forums are not the only game in town. Facebook has become very popular with many enthusiast type groups available. the mods and such have been biting the hands that feed them.

And Facebook sucks. Can’t find anything. At least here the is 20 years of accessible content.

and most of what is on Facebook is extremely ignorant or Flatout wrong content.
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Originally Posted by ChumpVette
And Facebook sucks. Can’t find anything. At least here the is 20 years of accessible content.

and most of what is on Facebook is extremely ignorant or Flatout wrong content.
That's true. However, when the longtime, good contributors get driven out, the knowledge base stops. For the record, I use the knowledge base here a lot, both for educating myself and solving issues.
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Old Aug 12, 2024 | 09:34 PM
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I got a warning too and I thought I was pretty tact but the way the mod talks to you can for sure make it worse. That has happened plenty and will continue. Effe you vs behave or else...
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Tom was a great asset to this forum because he wasn't afraid to challenge bullshit when he saw it. I don't ever recall Tom posting anything he couldn't back up with facts. That often led to a certain amount of conflict because there are a few here who's ego cannot withstand a challenge. Rather than debate an issue or acknowledge their mistake or acceptance of another point of view, they puff up their chest and resort to personal attacks or when that doesn't work in their favor, they go Wahhh Wahhh to the mods. This is what happened in Tom's case. Forums such as this one should be for the exchange of FACTS and CORRECT information. Unfortunately, some often post "information" that is factually wrong and of no benefit to those seeking a solution to a problem. They read something, somewhere, and repost it here. There are enough sub-forums here that if your ambition is to grab your morning coffee and gossip or spread misinformation, then there is a place for you. Every single day of the week, there are posts here with incorrect information. "Your fuel pump won't come on till there is 4 PSI of oil pressure"..."At 6500 RPM, your sunshell is turning twice that speed"..."The orifice tube changes the liquid to a gas and absorbs the heat from the interior". Sound familiar? ALL absolute bullshit. Tom challenged all of this form of nonsense and we are now where we are at. I somehow feel that being banned from here did not affect his life too greatly.
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I somehow feel that being banned from here did not affect his life too greatly.
Actually I bet he has a few more free hours a week due to not posting correct information on here
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Hahah. Had a bad taste from the mod situation yes.

I text with him occasionally and hope he comes back. I hope to meet up with him and his boy for a track day in salt lake in the coming years 👍
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Usually mods dont care about the c4 sub-site

make a post with a complaint on the c8, or how to trick a dealer into honoring ypur warranty (with mods) - basically anything that GM might not like

and the post gets quickly locked

so he must have pissed someone off
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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drcook
That's true. However, when the longtime, good contributors get driven out, the knowledge base stops. For the record, I use the knowledge base here a lot, both for educating myself and solving issues.
dont worry, im still here to provide knowledge and not BS

i havent been banned
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I've always found his content to be valuable.Especially when I first bought my hunk of junk. I spent a lot of time just using the search function and reading.
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I've always found his content to be valuable.Especially when I first bought my hunk of junk. I spent a lot of time just using the search function and reading.
yeah, thats my complaint on the facebook c4 sites

there isnt a good way to search prior posts

and wow! talk about more clueless people on that site
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One of my issues with the mods here is that if someone clicks ‘report a post’

the mod will look at just that post and determine if a rules violation occurred without looking into the context.

for example:
someone reports a post for ‘name-calling’

the mod investigates it and bans the person who name-called somebody else a ‘dummy’

meanwhile, if you dig thru the thread you will find that multiple other users insulted and name-called the person first

however since those posts werent ‘reported’, those users dont get punished for the violation of forum rules.

this is especially true on 10+ page threads where the mod doesnt care/want to dig thru what could have possibly prompted someone to call someone a derogatory name

Heck the same user that started name-calling can then report the OP bc he responded to the insult.


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So, no one has commented on "Vetteoz".
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