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Old Aug 22, 2024 | 12:36 PM
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Hello all, I’m very new to the corvette world but I’ve really fallen in love with my C4, and just have a stupid idea. I like driving the thing, daily it whenever I can, but the 84 already has a lackluster engine, trans, and rear end. I’m wanting to swap in the necessary drivetrain components out of an 07/08 V8 SRX to make an incredibly fuel efficient, quicker, 6-Speed AWD Corvette that I could take wherever, whenever. Right now I’m still in the brainstorming phase without a doubt, so I was just looking for any type of pointers anyone could give me. Thanks all!
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Sounds like a chore. One request, please don't tear the C4 apart until you're fully ready to complete this project.
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Sounds like a chore. One request, please don't tear the C4 apart until you're fully ready to complete this project.
I get it’ll be a pain, and obviously yeah I won’t be making any big moves till I’m ready. I plan on acquiring more of a beater C4 with either the money from or a trade for this 09 civic I’ve got. Better, less valuable candidate for a teardown as the first experiment.
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Originally Posted by CHBC41984
Hello all, I’m very new to the corvette world but I’ve really fallen in love with my C4, and just have a stupid idea. I like driving the thing, daily it whenever I can, but the 84 already has a lackluster engine, trans, and rear end. I’m wanting to swap in the necessary drivetrain components out of an 07/08 V8 SRX to make an incredibly fuel efficient, quicker, 6-Speed AWD Corvette that I could take wherever, whenever. Right now I’m still in the brainstorming phase without a doubt, so I was just looking for any type of pointers anyone could give me. Thanks all!
It would be easier to fabricate a tube chassis car that is AWD and make a shell for it that looked like an 84 Vette then what it would take to convert one to AWD. It's a cool idea but you would literally have to redesign the entire car.

The C4 is very good at a few things. And that means it's not as versatile as other platforms. It's probably the best bang for your buck auto cross car there is. It even makes an ok drag car. I think it's an amazing street car. All of those things are perfectly well suited for RWD. If you search on the forum there have been a lot of crazy and very successful swaps done. Hell years ago I remember a guy who pulled an LT4 out of a blown up 96 grand sport and swapped in a turbo diesel 6 cylinder. He even drove it to Corvettes at Carlisle.

Making it AWD just wouldn't be worth it. But doing a motor swap with a big turbo, nitrous or a supercharger has all been done and is very worth it.
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I have to question the choice of a Northstar. Take a look at the number of engine failures. They are common to have blown head gaskets. The cure is not a simple head gasket change, but rather it is from the studs/bolts that go into the block. Over time and corrosion the internal threads don't have enough support for their loading and many times requires a new motor. ( I had this problem on a Cadillac I had briefly.)

The swap is an interesting idea, but I would choose something that is more common and has had good results like another small block, an LS engine, etc.

Good luck.
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The Northstar wasn't exactly GMs best, most reliable motor......I would think there are better options. Drop in a new LS motor, less headache.
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I have an LQ9 with a 4L80e all with a PCM and stand alone harness for sale on my eBay store and in the forum parts for sale section right now if you're interested. I would sell it less here than eBay...just saying.

It would be way more reliable than a Northstar. And you could make way more power.
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Pipe dream. It would never get finished, and even if it did, it would be heavy, slow, and guzzle gas.
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I have to question the choice of a Northstar. Take a look at the number of engine failures. They are common to have blown head gaskets. The cure is not a simple head gasket change, but rather it is from the studs/bolts that go into the block. Over time and corrosion the internal threads don't have enough support for their loading and many times requires a new motor. ( I had this problem on a Cadillac I had briefly.)

The swap is an interesting idea, but I would choose something that is more common and has had good results like another small block, an LS engine, etc.

Good luck.
I totally get the questionability of a Northstar, they’ve got a horrible rep and for damn good reason. Regardless, before dropping it in I would be doing the whole head stud/gasket job for piece of mind, and I’m also exclusively looking for an 07-08 MY AWD STS/SRX to pull it from. Two reasons for that, supposedly the engines got some sort of slight rework post 05, and the 6L transmission to come with the engine. .67 final ratio with way more gearing to go through at regular speeds. As for why not just using an LS and a 6l80, well it’s mostly just me being an idiot. I imagine I could get similar mileage/power/fun-ness out of an iron 4.8 for fairly cheap, but the trans would be harder to find. Slap shift, hopefully paddles, and more than 4 gears are a requirement for me, and I don’t really want a stick.(I know that’s sacrilegious, I’m a lazy POS I’m sorry) The Northstar cars just come with everything I want/need, they’re cheap, easy to find, and nobody does this typa sh*t with em. Just gonna give it my best effort
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Pipe dream. It would never get finished, and even if it did, it would be heavy, slow, and guzzle gas.
It’d actually drop 100lbs or so in theory, and definitely do better on gas. Not wrong about the pipe though.
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Originally Posted by Phobos84
I have an LQ9 with a 4L80e all with a PCM and stand alone harness for sale on my eBay store and in the forum parts for sale section right now if you're interested. I would sell it less here than eBay...just saying.

It would be way more reliable than a Northstar. And you could make way more power.
Super appreciative of the offer, and if I decide to ditch the Northstar idea in the end I’ll definitely hit ya if it’s still available. For now though I’m fairly committed. Thanks a lot, and wish ya a high offer on the combo if it ain’t from me LOL
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Originally Posted by Phobos84
It would be easier to fabricate a tube chassis car that is AWD and make a shell for it that looked like an 84 Vette then what it would take to convert one to AWD. It's a cool idea but you would literally have to redesign the entire car.
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This very well may be what I end up doing, a tube sub frame and supported suspension mounts over an SRX/STS frame. All I’d need then is the Caddy and a beat up C4 roller. Somehow get the body to mount to the tubes and I’m set LOL, piece of cake amirite. I do get exactly what you’re saying though, it isn’t the most versatile car/platform to do this with, but that’s kinda my point. Doing all this to give it some more gears, AWD, and a different level of versatility. Then I could do some even weirder sh*t with it. The crazy CRAZY pipe dream is to eventually get it on bags, be able to raise it for some funky off-roading. As you said though, it would be a pain and much easier to just slap an LS into it. I just won’t let that part deter me till it really smacks me in the face(if it does). You’ll never know what’s possible till ya try!
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Originally Posted by Rush91
The Northstar wasn't exactly GMs best, most reliable motor......I would think there are better options. Drop in a new LS motor, less headache.
I AM THE MIGRAINE!!! Seriously though, not wrong at all, and that’s one more tally on the LS side.
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Sometimes It's about the challange. The journey not the destination. I say go for it. If it was easy it wouldn't be fun.
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Originally Posted by CHBC41984
It’d actually drop 100lbs or so in theory, and definitely do better on gas. Not wrong about the pipe though.
Where is the supposed drop of 100lbs coming from exactly?
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