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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 02:40 AM
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This weekend I took my 93 to a drag strip for the first time, was a blast but was a little slower than I expected. Wondering if I might be down on power or if y’all think this is reasonable.

I’ve read that from factory it should do a low 14sec 1/4 mile (probably set by an auto?). Mine is the ZF6 and my best of two runs was 14.2sec at 100mph. It has a few minor mods to it that made me think I should have been able to run a little faster, but let me know what you guys think. I am a rookie so the driver mod definitely was a factor, I know that… also worth mentioning it has 95k miles and was flogged most of its life.

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-BBK 58mm throttle body
-SLP cold air intake
-Single x-pipe muffler to straight pipes back
-MSD ignition control module and vented Opti
-“Custom tuned” ECU by previous owner
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100mph trap speed is putting down pretty decent for an older street car. What rear-end ratio do you have? That and tire/ traction levels off the lights is probably more impact on the ET than engine performance. Glad you had fun tho! Not the 1st or last time somebody goes to the track (or dyno &#128556 and comes home with a new perspective 😉 Don't get yourself bummed about it, keep having fun 👍
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That, and 2 runs isn't nearly enough to settle the nerves and get a good feel for the car and that track. Assuming you were even running the same lane both times, can change things. You could break into the 13's next time with nothing more than more experience and maybe a slightly cooler-air night. Just be careful, it gets addictive!! 😁
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Issues that I can see that you really should investigate

-LT4 heads
-Ported LT1 intake manifold
Did you mean a ported LT4 intake or really a LT1 intake with LT4 heads. There will be a mismatch at the ports if so which can affect performance

​​​​​​​"Custom tuned” ECU by previous owner
The issue would be "Did prev owner get it right".

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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 12:17 PM
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What was your 60ft? Which track? DA for the time of the runs?

You could be in Denver for those times or you could be in Vegas. If you are at Houston or Atco, different story.
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100 mph in the quarter is not bad at all. What was your reaction time and 60 foot time?
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location=elevation ?

60ft time?

Gear ratio?
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My bone stock engine, no headers, but flowmaster exhaust and Lingenfelter torque convert ( which was a GM S10 truck converter), ran 13.5s all day at Rockingham dragstrip. Sticky dragstrip..
Speed was about 105mph.
1993 LT1 and I put it in D and let the transmission do its things.
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Originally Posted by Torqsplit
That, and 2 runs isn't nearly enough to settle the nerves and get a good feel for the car and that track. Assuming you were even running the same lane both times, can change things. You could break into the 13's next time with nothing more than more experience and maybe a slightly cooler-air night. Just be careful, it gets addictive!! 😁
Much appreciated Torqsplit, definitely have the itch after just a couple runs haha! I know I wasn't leaving as hard as I could as the condition of the clutch is questionable to me, so I should be able to make up some time in the 60' as I do this more! I don't know the rear-end ratio offhand, it's just the base trim LT1 package as far as I know. Is there something in the VIN that would indicate if I have the performance axle ratio option?
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Originally Posted by drcook
Issues that I can see that you really should investigate



Did you mean a ported LT4 intake or really a LT1 intake with LT4 heads. There will be a mismatch at the ports if so which can affect performance



The issue would be "Did prev owner get it right".
LT4 heads and a ported LT1 intake manifold is what he told me. I haven't torn into things enough to know if he was correct in that, is there a visible difference between the LT1 and LT4 manifold and heads? Pretty sure there is, heading to Google university shortly.

And the ECU was tuned by a guy named The LS Cowboy. With a name like that, I didn't question him...
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Track was Rock Falls Raceway in Eau Claire, WI (internet says 1000ft above sea level). Don't know the DA but the weather was decent that day.

60' was 2.2sec, still learning how much I can push this stock clutch.

Reaction time... we'll just say room for improvement

Gear ratio, unknown but it's the base trim LT1. If anyone knows a free site for getting a build sheet or can interpret the VIN for me, I'm all ears!
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Originally Posted by steve40th
My bone stock engine, no headers, but flowmaster exhaust and Lingenfelter torque convert ( which was a GM S10 truck converter), ran 13.5s all day at Rockingham dragstrip. Sticky dragstrip..
Speed was about 105mph.
1993 LT1 and I put it in D and let the transmission do its things.
That's awesome @steve40th ! Auto's definitely have their advantages
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Do you know how much power you’re making?
when my c3 was about 300rwhp, 3200ish pounds, I could trap 102, high 13s.
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Originally Posted by randallsteel
Do you know how much power you’re making?
when my c3 was about 300rwhp, 3200ish pounds, I could trap 102, high 13s.
I don’t unfortunately, it just has the mentioned minor upgrades. I figured at a minimum those would cancel out the engine being higher mileage and it should be at least the LT1’s factory 300HP.

I ran a few of those online calculators that you enter your trap speed and car weight with driver in it and it kicks out an estimated HP. The results varied between 260 and 285hp at flywheel, so I suppose low 14’s tracks with your C3 experience.
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What were you shifting at? What are you launching at?
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Originally Posted by Bwilliamson14
That's awesome @steve40th ! Auto's definitely have their advantages
They do. And unless you are willing to practice practice and pracitce some more, the sticks generally wont be as quick. Thats why GM put 2.59 and 3.08 gears in the autos for LT1 C4s. They knew if the autos had the 3.45, the sticks would be significantly slower.. Not good for sales.
But sticks, they are the way to go in my opinion, as tehy have far more benefits in the whole scheme of owning a sports car
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Originally Posted by 93TALT4A4
What were you shifting at? What are you launching at?
Shifting about 5500, launched about 2500 (cautious about clutch, could probably leave harder)
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Originally Posted by steve40th
They do. And unless you are willing to practice practice and pracitce some more, the sticks generally wont be as quick. Thats why GM put 2.59 and 3.08 gears in the autos for LT1 C4s. They knew if the autos had the 3.45, the sticks would be significantly slower.. Not good for sales.
But sticks, they are the way to go in my opinion, as tehy have far more benefits in the whole scheme of owning a sports car
Interesting background, definitely makes sense!! I did wonder what gear ratio the base level manual has. Am I reading correctly that’s the 3.45?
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I think Shift points are supposed to be a bit higher, 5700 rpm. Launch is a little high, but if you have traction, sounds good.
Be advised its addictive... Just learn to enjoy it.
Start buying clutch, u joints and tires. Then brake pads, front rotors, helmet, .....
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Originally Posted by Bwilliamson14
Interesting background, definitely makes sense!! I did wonder what gear ratio the base level manual has. Am I reading correctly that’s the 3.45?
All LT1/4 6 speeds had 3.45 gears. No options. People that put 4.10 say it makes the car super awesome, and 6th gear becomes far more useful. Not 3.73s, but 4.10 is the sweet gear ratio for the LT1/4s and six speeds.
The other C4s had several gears, 3.33, 3.08, 3.45 and a 3.54 I think was offered somewhere
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