header setups?
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From: Lake Wylie SC
Re: header setups? (devilfish)
I went to a fastener store nearby that had socket head S/S bolts. I measured the required length and bought that bolt. I also had to grind some of the A/C and Alt support brackets so they didn't rub against the header tube where they are bolted to the header flange. Don't forget the anti seize on those bolts. :yesnod:
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Melting Slicks
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Re: header setups? (Strick)
hmm could you explain that, im not verry good at english ya know :) hehe
Wount a long bolt be very instabel?
What is a socket head s/s bolt?
You got pictures?
Wount a long bolt be very instabel?
What is a socket head s/s bolt?
You got pictures?
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Re: header setups? (devilfish)
Are you talking about the secondary A/C brace that attaches to the compressor and then to the exhaust manifold via a stud or bolt? If so, I simply left mine off when I installed headers and never had a problem. But, if you feel the need to have one I suggest obtaining a 1.5" long piece of 3/8" diameter pipe (steel or aluminum) and a longer header bolt...Use the pipe as the spacer and, well, you know what to do with the longer bolt...
-Jeb Burnett
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From: Lake Wylie SC
Re: header setups? (devilfish)
hmm could you explain that, im not verry good at english ya know :) hehe
Wount a long bolt be very instabel?
What is a socket head s/s bolt?
You got pictures?
Wount a long bolt be very instabel?
What is a socket head s/s bolt?
You got pictures?
As far as being unstable, I think it is very stable and it takes the preasure off the A/C and Alt bracket. Remember, you are bolting the headers onto aluminum heads so make sure at least 3/4 of an inch of the header bolt goes into the head. I believe those brackets were put there for a reason, that's why I kept them in there.
Sorry no pics yet. I'm going to buy one of those digital cameras, one of these days.
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From: O'Fallon Missouri
Re: header setups? (Strick)
I also had to grind some of the A/C and Alt support brackets so they didn't rub against the header tube where they are bolted to the header flange.
Same here.
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Melting Slicks
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Re: header setups? (STL94LT1)
but wouldent you tight the bracket against "air" cuase you dont have annything between the bracket moutning hole and the header flang??
On the stock "headers" you hade very long bolt "towers" to tight the bracket against..
( hope understand what I mean )
regards
On the stock "headers" you hade very long bolt "towers" to tight the bracket against..
( hope understand what I mean )
regards
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Re: header setups? (devilfish)
I ground down the heads on the stock exhaust/alt bracket bolts/studs to clear the header tubes. I left enough material on the bolt heads to still tighten the bolts, and at the same time clear the header tubes.
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From: Lake Wylie SC
Re: header setups? (devilfish)
Okay, what kind of headers did you buy? Mine had that "tower" you are talking about on it. So, as said previously, buy a small piece of pipe that has an inside diameter of 3/8" or just enough to pass a header bolt through and treat it as a "standoff" Use flat washers at each end of the pipe. Hope I explained that good enough to follow. :cheers:
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Re: header setups? (devilfish)
and what about the oil dip stick?
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Re: header setups? (Strick)
A lot of aftermarket headers don't...My LPE ones didn't, nor do Hookers... I think TPIS' has them, and I believe SLP's shorties do as well...I don't know about EM's...
-Jeb
PS- I solved the dipstick tube problem by buying an aftermarket TransDapt one, it took a little bending work on the tab but it secures nicely straight to the header flange with no need for the "tower" as we've begun to call it...
-Jeb
PS- I solved the dipstick tube problem by buying an aftermarket TransDapt one, it took a little bending work on the tab but it secures nicely straight to the header flange with no need for the "tower" as we've begun to call it...
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Re: header setups? (jburnett)
A lot of aftermarket headers don't...My LPE ones didn't, nor do Hookers... I think TPIS' has them, and I believe SLP's shorties do as well...I don't know about EM's...
-Jeb
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Re: header setups? (devilfish)
I know its ugly but cant you use a hose clamp to fix it against the header pipe?
If the pipe for a standoff scares you, How about a nut or two just large enough to slide the header bolts through? If you still have your stock manifolds, measure the thickness at the "towers" and subtract the thickness of the flange on your headers. This will give you how far to standoff from your flange to hold the oil dip stick. Now you can use your stock header studs that allow you to bolt the dip stick on useing a nut (just like the stock set up). Is that clear as MUD :confused:
Wish I had a digital camera :rant:
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Re: header setups? (Strick)
hahah you right. Its just that I have put in sooo much time in this car the last month, and im getting fed up with all the "creative" solutions on strange problemes that set me back on time.. So right now I just whant the car to run, then I can solve the cosmetic problemes later :)
But I hear you in the solutions, and im going to use your tips,, thanks for your time..
But I hear you in the solutions, and im going to use your tips,, thanks for your time..
