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Old May 6, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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Anyone running the TSS Total Seals..and if so What should the final Hone Pass grit be.?
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Old May 6, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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DO NOT RUN THEM :cheers:
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Old May 6, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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Why Not...You must have a good reason?
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Old May 6, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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I tried C&A Zero Gap rings in my 421 when I first built it. I had oil consumption problems. I then tore it back down, changed back to Speed Pro file fits, and the oil consumption problem is gone.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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tried them on two ocasions and two different motors and had problems on both ocurances and i would have swore bye them at one time but no more put in a good set of molly rings and forget about it :cheers:
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Old May 7, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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What finish Hone stone grit did you use. In the beginning T.S. Recommended 400 grit. now 280-320 I think for this very reason.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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I dumped my Total Seal rings for file fit because of oil consumtion issues as well. i will never do a total seal ring again. I went with J&E file fit.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Wow !!!!

You Guys Answered My Question. Thought it could have been a Stone Grit Issue ? Too smooth ? Making them hard if noy impossible to seat?

Thanx
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Old May 7, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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I think the answer to your question is more or less "They suck, don't use them."

:jester

Otherwise, you might try finding an 800 number somewhere.

:cheers:
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Old May 7, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Wow, I have a set of these on a Pontiac 400 and I love them. No problems and it runs great (much more power than I expected out of the motor). Is it a problem with the LT1 or what? Strange...
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Old May 7, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Zeke..Do you know which grit stone your 400 was finish honed at?
T.S. used to recommend 400 but switched to 280/320. I suspect for this rerason.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Here is the way I see it. A few people including Corky, who really know there crap when it comes to engines are saying NEVER to use them. So I wouldn't.........

Also while the idea of them are great, the risks of oil consumption greatly outweights the benefits, this is how.

A good set of plasma-moly rings properly set up will leak down maybe 1-2% virtually nothing. A set of total seals might pick up that 1-2%, so I have to ask. How much are you really loosing?

See where I am coming from? I would get a good set of Moly rings and enjoy a dependable seal and no other worries. Rings are not an easy thing to swap out. You sorta want to do it right the first time around. :cheers:
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