Does anyone have the camber brace dimensions.

Reason I ask is, I want to see if I can fabricate one myself.

Now, before we start all the taking business away from vendors deal, I have seen people fabricating their own intakes (taking business away from LPE) and fabricating a bunch of stuff in order to save some money.l

Since everyone wants to do cheap mods to their cars (some free) I thought that this would be an avenue for me.

No, I do not intend on selling them at all, I want to make one for myself.

 

it is about yea long, yay wide, and yay deep with xyz, 123 threads.


:rolleyes:

 

That helped me...how?

 

o.k.

i'll be the first to say that my post was not necessary. I will also say that I think you should have taken this one off line.

Im not trying to hijack your thread, but you are asking people to measure a part that they bought that is sold by a vendor on this forum so you can make your own.

I do not have a problem with home fabrication, I do not think this is the best method to go about it.


:seeya

 

What do you mean, taken this one offline?

Do you have another suggestion as to a better method? I love this forum cuz it usually offers a great deal of information. I figured this would be the best place to answer my questions.

 

If you understand the concept behind the brace, you'll be able to fabricate one for yourself. Other than that, e-mail Dave and ask him for the dimensions. If he gives them to you, great, if not, well you're on your own.

I'm a staunch supporter of R-D Racing and the business Dave is running. There's no way I'd undermine what he is doing.

 

:iagree:

 

I think it's great that he's doing good business and making products. If he didn't make such products, there wouldn't be any reason why I would want to make my own. But, because I've heard it works well, I want to see if I can make my own that way.

First of all, due to my present situation, it will be very cost effective.
Secondly, it will get me used to working on my car more often , and hopefully save some money on future mechanics bills.

Remember, everyone loves the cheap or free mods. Look at Ecklers, they sell cut lids, throttle body bypass kits and complete ram air type kits for like $200 or so. I've seen people say, "I'm not gonna spend the money on it, I'll just make my own air induction kit". How many people have cut lids, throttle body bypasses and made their own air intake kits by cutting the fan shroud? Should they feel guilty from taking business away from Ecklers ( who is a supporting vendor by the looks of it)?

 

I agree with the other guys. :yesnod:

However, if you want to make your own....do it.
Just don't expext us to measure ours and send you the dimensions. We paid for Dave's expertise, and he rewards us with new products...

 

:iagree:

 

:iagree: Dave has put alot of time and money into producing his products, and I am glad no one on this forum is willing to help someone copy Dave's design.

 

I think you guys are all being a little harsh.

There are a lot of things that are manufactured that some of us make up on our own. ie, TB bypass. If someone think I am going to pay someone 40 bucks for a piece of pipe and two hose clamps :lolg: A home made AFPR is another idea that people make on their own.

the gentleman that asked for the dimensions still has to cut/weld/paint/drill etc to get his contraption to work.

The OEM maufacturer are constantly doing this to one anothers vehicles. As long as they are not identical or maybe he adds a little *twist* to the brace, then its not unethical by any means what he is asking.

Now don't get me wrong, if you don't want to give him dimensions that is entirely up to you, but its really not that big of a deal. I for one made my own Air pump elim kit, for about 20 bucks and IMHO it looks better than any of the bought ones I have seen.

I believe the idea for the camber brace in itself is more of a leap of faith, than the actual bar itself is. In other words the idea to put a bar across there, probably took more thought than the actual bar itself.

One last thing like myself.....if I wanted to make it out or Chro-moly instead, to save some weight, technically I made the product better, therefor its not a breach of any.

With that please don't flog me :leaving:

 

How about, go out just measure the distance between the two attach points, make one yourself. Thread one or both ends, for adjustability. Bingo, you're most of the way there.

Just a guess, but bet you've stirred up quite a honets nest here. Have to kinda agree with most, in that you shouldn't copy it.


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Wow, a person actually kinda sees my side of things.

I am not going to put a Camber Brace sticker on it. I'm not going to show it off. I'm probably not even going to build it out of the same material (weight savings maybe). Therefore, I am not copying it, just the idea of it.

As Ski said, if you don't want to help me, you don't have to. Some fellow Corvette owners like to help others though.

 

Jeremy,

I don't think anyone is out to hammer you. Taking the words straight from your thread, a lot of Corvette owners on this forum are Customers of R-D Racing and are just trying to help a fellow Corvette owner who has helped them.

As far as your quest to obtain the demensions of the Camber-brace, it's pretty easy to obtain with a tape measure, point A to B. I will tell you that the angles are the tough part and I won't tell you what they are.

Good luck with your project and feel free to call me if your interested in the real thing. We do have an easy payment plan that many members have taken advantage of.

Wavin at Ya'
Dave Cooper
R-D Racing Enterprises, Inc.
573-756-6954

:seeya

 

I see nothing wrong with what you are doing. I have the brace and it would have taken me a considerable amount of time to figure out for myself where to put which kinds of bends in it. Of course your bar is not going to be the same and if I had the capability of putting the bends necessary I would have made my own version with polished aluminum. :cool: There also wouldn't be any stickers on there but I have decided to be kind and leave the advertising for R-D on my show car. :) The bottom line is even if YOU can make a bar like this 99% of the people on this forum who want one are not willing to spend the time to make one or they do not have a welder or other supplies etc. If someone makes there own bar (and does not sell it or duplicates) to meet their own financial budgets good for them. :thumbs:

 

Dave thanks for replying. I am in no way trying to get people to try to make their own and take away business from you. I have heard about your products and the praises about them. I am sure they are awesome pieces to add to any Corvette!

With that being said, I was just trying to have a more cost feasible way of making my own. My Dad works for a custom metal shop and can make just about anything. He made me my nitrous plate (had to make the openings 58 mm instead of 52, re-angle the nozzles and make sure all vacuum passages were covered), and he made me my own hatch vent piece (old piece was made of rubber coated wood and it broke).

If I go out, measure and get the piece in right (I imagine it will take time), I'll send you a piece, and maybe you could tell me what you think of it. Who knows, if I come into some more money soon, I probably will buy one from you, but in the meantime, I'll try making my own.

Cheers :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


[Modified by black_89_vette, 5:26 PM 6/5/2003]

 

I like to make my own things also, so I appreciate your desire to fabricate your own. I have one of Dave's camber braces in my vette - (for me) it wasn't worth the effort to make one from scratch, especially when you consider how inexpensive it was during the GP last winter. Now the X-brace is something that I might try making on my own.

Instead of asking for measurements, which will be difficult to obtain accurately because of the bends in the piece, I recommend that you make a full sized template from wood. You could easily modify it until you are satisfied with the fit, then take it to the shop and copy it with your material of choice.

Good luck