TPIS bad business (please read)

Terry,
On a seperate subject, I'm sure I speak for many and that is while you're here on the forum, stick around and contribute on occasion if you have the time. This forum is an incredible resource and potential customer base.
There are so many people new to racing and have performance related questions that need to be answered not just by hobby racers like myself, but also Tuners who do it for a living. Do a search on the keyword "Miniram" or "MR" or "Miniram vs Superram" and you'll see what I'm talking about.
For example, It is widely thought that the Miniram is more of a dedicated race intake and feel the MR will cost them too much torque under 4500 rpm, thus they chose the LPE Superram.... is this true, I dunno, but would love to hear the comments of TPIS and any customer result examples.
Also will the 700-701 solid roller cam work well with a 383 & Superram manifold in your opinion ? You have a couple of motors on this forum that cam is working well with... but they're 406/Superram combinations.
One more question.... Are you guys working on anything new for the L98 or LT-1 or are you pretty much in the LS-1 mode nowadays?
Hope you stick around.
Cheers,
Beach Bum
As far as torque and the Mini-Ram goes: It is very similar in design to the factory LT1 intake, If you had a 350, ZZ-409 cam, AFR head on a LT1, and the same setup on a std SBC with a Mini-Ram,you would probably only see 10-15 more HP with the Mini-Ram, due to more plenum volume. Not much of a difference. And if you look at stock LT1 cars, some came with 2.73 gears and automatics, they do not have a problem with torque. So no it is not a dedicated "Race" intake, Or a dedicated stroker intake.
Yes the 700-701 cam will work good with a SuperRam, but a 406 Super Ram will not out perform a Mini-Ram, it still has too long of runner to make the RPM/HP you would want. RPM is HP, shorter runner=more rpm, it is that simple.
We are still building a lot of L-98 and LT1 motors, just pulled a 396 LT1 off the dyno this morning. We have a great new solid roller cam for a 383-402 Ci LT1/L-98 Mini-Ram motor. The last two LT1 396's with this cam made 550HP with a 210cc comp. port AFR head, 11.5:1 c/r, 58mm T/B, and the cam is a 244/250 .604/.608 on a 112LSA. Works really nice, and still streetable.
I will try to get back as the phones permit, otherwise email us or phone us with any questions you may have.
Thank You,
Terry
TPiS
952-448-6021
hpfarm@aol.com http://www.tpis.com
I spend all this cash, and they know parts don't fit correctly, that blows.
They also sent me the wrong fittings with my miniram, and didn't send the throttle bracket either until I called them.
One friend with one of the minirams got clueless and useless results from their chip burning guy. Car would always run rich, and I told him to tell the guy to lower the ve% in the lower ve tables, but they acted like they didn't know what he was talking about. :crazy: We finally started burning our own chips and fixed the problem. They also couldn't figure out how to stop his convertor from locking up in 3rd gear, we fixed it ourselves. :mad
We both have afpr's that the diaphram has ruptured in, and they said to buy a stock lt1 regulator and put their afpr hat back on it since it was just a stock lt1 regulator anyway. :eek:
They really do suck. I won't buy anything from them again, and my friends won't either. Everytime we called, we got nothing but attitude, and we are all paying customers. :U
How many unsatisfied TPIS customers is that now??? ... coincidence? ... NO! :nono:
I will state one more time - I have a very high regard for TPIS. Like some of the others, yes I have had to call back a few times, or ask for help, or try a chip more than once, but they have always been very good to me. I mean, come on, you've never had to call back Jeg's or Summit? They've never shipped you the wrong thing? That happens to me all the time. Let's be realistic. At least TPIS races and uses their own stuff!!! Those guys are gear-heads just like me and I will continue to support their business.
Lastly, it seems to me that there have been plenty of posts on this string supporting TPIS like me. Accordingly, I would encourage other Forum participants who read this whole string to judge for themselves. At least give TPIS a chance and then you can make your own determination.
Just remember guys it's all about Vettes - Corvettes Rule!! :thumbs:
Just remember guys it's all about Vettes - Corvettes Rule!! :thumbs:
And to think someone would waste their 15 minutes of fame on this, and if time were money, and it is, more money was wasted trying to be right.
Signing off of this topic, ,,,, :sleep:
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However, I will say that quality of parts as well as customer service realy matters. When I respond to posts I sometimes laud parises upon a vendor who has realy come through for me; and I don't hesitate to comment on quality of a part if it wasn't up to specs.
I believe most of us will buy a quality part that gets the job done even if the price is a little higher than that of alternative parts.
Lets hope that our vendors maintain a good Q/A arm and lets hear about it when they don't. That way we can help them keep on top of quality as we benefit in the long run as well.
On the other hand, I'm not real pleased with some of Terry's comments and can't condone his attitude either. I have bought their headers and 52mm TB and had no problems whatsoever...
Mike
If I could have found a supplier for the MiniRam cheaper than TPIS I would have bought it, but I thought they were the only ones to get NEW ones from. So I finally bit the bullet and bought one after several years of wanting one. Glad I did too. TPIS will continue to get business from me.
I hope the parties involved finally work this out in a civilized manner.


On the other hand, I'm not real pleased with some of Terry's comments and can't condone his attitude either.
I have absolutely no problem with Terry's replies on this thread. If I read through all the posts publicly ripping me apart, I would have come out swinging harder than he did.
This thread won't stop me from doing more business with them though...
Mike
Maybe "I'm sorry, but we're unable to help you due to policy" or something. And then include ways to become within policy, like asking for an invoice. Much better than saying "You're a liar! Otherwise show an invoice!"
Mike in Boston...you can help here...just post what intake you sold him and if it in fact had welded fittings on the rails.
Terry...you seemed to ignore the fact he is not using the intake Mike sold him...as evidenced by his head combination.
You also ignored the fact that your company told him a bad part number...which was the whole reason he called and spoke to you in this case. That simple and seemingly unobtrusive fact is the sole issue that puts the responsibility to help back in the court of TPIS. You refused this obligation.
Terry..one other thing, you judged him without full knowledge of what he has.
In business, the best policy is to go the extra mile when you dont have too. Calling someone a liar is NEVER a good business policy...even if they are.
Terry, be glad I am not the president of TPIS...I would fire you for a bad attitude...and I wouldnt give a rats butt about wether you are technically correct or not! Your just crying because your president made you look stupid.
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You also ignored the fact that your company told him a bad part number...which was the whole reason he called and spoke to you in this case. That simple and seemingly unobtrusive fact is the sole issue that puts the responsibility to help back in the court of TPIS. You refused this obligation.
I have to agree on this point no matter what the others say. When the vendor tells a customer to buy something incorrect and they do, and now have to EAT the parts, then I believe the VENDOR should step and grab the bull by the ***** and make it right.
I have to say, let go of the fact that Chris gave out the wrong part number. Jeez, people are making such a big deal about that. He is human, and made a mistake, damn! Hasn't anyone here ever made a mistake? Why don't we all drive up to Minnesota, drag Chris outside, and beat the $45.00 out of him!! Will that help? Hell no!!
Until 396roadster posts the invoice I have my doubts about what he is claiming here. It seems funny that 396roadster has has ignored many requests to post the invoice. Does it even exist? Hmm....
Tony
















