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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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I have a choice between 10.3:1 or 10.7:1 compression pistons for my 383 rebuild.... thats assumming stock 58cc heads..

car will have stock heads, stock exhaust, A4, stock stall and no gears.. with a mild cam

see cam choice here.. : http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=584612


so what have you done/or think?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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oh.. an i'd like to go with the 10.7:1 and just run super fuel always..

i know the LT1's have 10.4:1 stock and the LT4's 10.8:1 so im hoping that means I can get away with 10:7
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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I would go with the 10.3:1 because if you have to clean the block or heads you will make it more like 10.5:1 and if you want to make your compression more then just go with a different head gasket I think they use Inpala head gaskit to make it more I think it is 0.029 and that would bring it up a little.

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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Default Re: What compression ratio - 383 (MrJay)

Go with the 10.7. I have run a 396 with 11.5:1 and now run a 398 with 11:1. never had any problems running premium octane fuel.

Running the Impala head gasket will raise it around another .3 compression points over the .043 compressed thickness Felpro.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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An important question is do you ever plan on running Nitrous or supercharging it? If not I would go with the higher compression.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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No nitro or SC...
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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If those are you're choices, I'd go with the 10.7:1 as well. If I remember correctly, mine is around 10.8:1 and I'm having no problems running premium unleaded.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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If those are you're choices, I'd go with the 10.7:1 as well. If I remember correctly, mine is around 10.8:1 and I'm having no problems running premium unleaded.

what kind of numbers did you pull?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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If those are you're choices, I'd go with the 10.7:1 as well. If I remember correctly, mine is around 10.8:1 and I'm having no problems running premium unleaded.


what kind of numbers did you pull?
I'm still trying to get the sheets from my last run. (in Houston) I was told the dyno I was on usually runs 10-15hp down than most. (before I ran) My numbers were around 329rwhp and 355rwtq. I dynoed one other time when my fuel pump was probably going out and when the fuel stopped at 5000k I had 318rwhp and 361rwtq. So if you add 10 to 15hp to the first you get about the same tq and a little higher hp which is what it should be. I've got just about what I was shooting for.................for now. :D





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was the fuel pump the reason your car was falling flat on its face on your dyno sheets? I think i remeber you posting you were trying to track down that problem..
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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I have a choice between 10.3:1 or 10.7:1 compression pistons for my 383 rebuild.... thats assumming stock 58cc heads..
Go with 10:7:1. On the LT4 396 in my sig, we are running 11:1 on 92 octane with zero knock retard noted on the scan tool.

Also on my Mustang, I am running 10.8:1 with IRON heads on 93 octane with no problems...
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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was the fuel pump the reason your car was falling flat on its face on your dyno sheets? I think i remeber you posting you were trying to track down that problem..
I think it was part that and part programming. I paid to have it dyno tuned the last time it was in Houston so it's running fine now. All tuning before that had been on the street and this specific problem didn't really show up till after 100mph. The street is no place to be testing that kind of stuff. :nonod:
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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While we're here, how much compression can you run with the reverse cooled LT1 and aluminum heads? Has anyone run 12:1?

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Default Re: What compression ratio - 383 (jmr302)

glockLT4 did a 11.5:1 piston in his last rebuild and had continious problems with detonation... his was a 383 rebuild however..
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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12:1 :crazy: I don't know if anyone has done it but personally I would not go any higher than 11:1, especially down in this Texas heat.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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I did a search awhile back and see to recall someone here is running 12:1 in an LT1... but the motor is insane and runs crazy fuel or somehting..
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Cam duration can play a part in being able to run high compression, although you should not have a problem with either CR with 218/224 @ .050". Victor Rienz makes a .027 thickness gasket also that's available at NAPA. If you're really gonna use that CC 218/224, I have one I pulled after just 300 miles I would have just about given to you. I didn't like it, I boiled the tires down low but didn't have the top end power, the LPE 219 is much better for power up top. In any case, you may want to use at least a 1.52 rocker like CC Pro Mag, 10.7:1 sounds good with aluminum heads.

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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Cam duration can play a part in being able to run high compression, although you should not have a problem with either CR with 218/224 @ .050". Victor Rienz makes a .027 thickness gasket also that's available at NAPA. If you're really gonna use that CC 218/224, I have one I pulled after just 300 miles I would have just about given to you. I didn't like it, I boiled the tires down low but didn't have the top end power, the LPE 219 is much better for power up top. In any case, you may want to use at least a 1.52 rocker like CC Pro Mag, 10.7:1 sounds good with aluminum heads.

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mark,

the only difference is i'm using stock exhaust.. which wont really be able to utilize any power about 5500 rpm... which is why i picked a cam with such a low operating range... all of us have heard time and time again.. its all about matching componeants.. since you've run that cam do you think it'll run good with stock heads, rear gears (2.59), stock converter, stock rockers.e.tc..etc..?

I only wanted to go a step or two about stock... do you think this cam fits the bill? i'm thinking the LPE 219 is a bit much for a application i used to run earronds and go to work with..
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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It's your choice, not trying to dis your decision, I guess we're just performance nuts and want to see you make the most of your setup. I understand the low budget, you'll be fine for what you want out of it. Good luck with it!
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10.7 all the way, you start worrying about gas at 10.8 and such
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