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Did you get the computer tuned for the cam? I thought the hotcam with your setup is good for ~ 30 horses over a 300 baseline; seems you are 15 short unless it was a hot day and your #'s weren't corrected. Or your friend may be right in needing the long tubes (no cats) to take full advantage. Iv'e heard this setup and one word : LOUD...
Did you get the computer tuned for the cam? I thought the hotcam with your setup is good for ~ 30 horses over a 300 baseline; seems you are 15 short unless it was a hot day and your #'s weren't corrected. Or your friend may be right in needing the long tubes (no cats) to take full advantage. Iv'e heard this setup and one word : LOUD...
Of course each motor is different. But for reference a forum members LT4 baslined at 306rwhp. After the Hotcam, a little port matching of the intake, and and tuning he hit 338rwhp. This was with the stock exhaust intact.
What kind of dyno did you use, Dynojet or Mustang?
My LT4 stock dynoed at 299. Redynoed on the same Dynojet after Corsas I got the 313 you see in my sig. I am looking at the hot cam and hoping for 340 to the rear wheels.
Yes, this was on a Dyno model. I have new opti, plugs and 8.5 wires. This is stock LT4 program on vette. There was a curious 'spike' of increase in HP from 4.5 K to 5.5 K on the graph. Car was run at 205 degrees head temp. Several vette autocrossers here have said that the exhaust is the problem. One, with a C5, changed intake and exhaust but left original cam in the LS1 and got 380 RWHP. I guess it really does boil down to breathing.
One, with a C5, changed intake and exhaust but left original cam in the LS1 and got 380 RWHP. I guess it really does boil down to breathing.
LS1's are exceptionally strong motors but I still gotta call B.S. on this one. He's got something he's not telling you. No intake and exhaust work will give you 80 horses over stock. Some really good cylinder heads and some higher ratio rockers would allow him much better performance while still maintaining a stock cam. The car would also still sound pretty much stock without a noticeable lope, etc.
I've seen 320-330 on an intake / exhaust LS1. I might even buy 350 if he had headers on there but 380 is just absurd.
Sounds like you're leaving a little hp on the table somewhere. I'm at 342. I was 300 bone stock down to the paper air filter element and at 310 with the mods in my sig *except for* the HOT Cam and Meziere and tuning.
What rpm is your peak hp at? My peak is just under 6400rpm (I've bumped my fuel cutoff to 6800). If you're stopping the dyno run before the stock fuel cutoff of 6400rpm, that may be the answer.
As for the C5 guy turning 380 with only intake and exhaust changes....:bs I think he's neglecting to tell you something. It'd have to be an '02 or '03 Z06 to even get close with only those mods. The LSx is a great engine design, but not that great!
My last run (concurrent with 96GS#007's) was 316rwhp. This with an A4 (unlocked), no electric water pump and stock exhaust manifolds (muffler elims... just for effect :) ) on an LT4/Hotcam conversion.
Check your fuel curves. I've found that you can be quite a bit off on spark and not make much of a difference. My 316 run was with 3 degrees retarded on the top end to compensate for later nitrous use (ended up about 36 max).
Be sure to run the rpm over 6400. The Hotcam seems to peak around there with LT4 (or equivalent) heads and stock/shorty headers.
One thing to keep an eye on is your overall hp/torque averages for the run. A leaned out run may produce a high peak HP number but you could suffer down low. Better to be a bit rich. You'll find better overall averages that way.
OK, MY BAD!!! I never really looked at the graph until tonight! I never hit the fuel cut off as I backed off at what appears to be 6250 on the strongest run. The graph is at the highest peak at that point. Of course I should have more in there! duh! (well spank my butt and send me to bed without any supper) :)
I still should get some headers, though. :smash: :smash: