Turbo Project
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
but wat about the boost controll, turbo timing and other turbo related computer controll poopie.
I'd concentrate on the basics first, then you can get flashy with everything else.
Le Mans Master
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Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
i am playing on building a 406 (or 401) with my L98 350block or if i can find a LT1.
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
Boost control can be done mechanically with a $50 setup from turbonetics. Turbo timers are not needed but are a convienence. Both of these are pretty much after thoughts to the turbo system and can be added on at any time.
I'd concentrate on the basics first, then you can get flashy with everything else.
I'd concentrate on the basics first, then you can get flashy with everything else.
I think a turbo timer is a must so the turbo can cool down, after the car is turn off. I can get a good deal on both so i think, i will buy them soon.
And yes i plan 2 stroke the 350 block 2 406 (have it built 2 hold the turbo setup)
Melting Slicks
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From: Union City CA
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
And yes i plan 2 stroke the 350 block 2 406 (have it built 2 hold the turbo setup)
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (Light84vette)
:nono: YOu cant build a 400+CID out of a 350 block, you need a siamesed Small Block, or better known as a 400 block. So if you want a 406 you should start searching for a good used block to rebuild upon. :yesnod:
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
When you are talking about forced induction. It's all about how much air you can move through the engine. a 420 with 10psi or a 383 with 15psi which will have more horsepower??? Look at a compressor map, at a given efficiency turbos flow more cfm if you are running a higher boost level. It's all about making the parts work togther. If you can make a high reving 355ci you might be better off. Less low end torque, but more high end horsepower. It's all about a goal and making things work togther.
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Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
When you are talking about forced induction. It's all about how much air you can move through the engine. a 420 with 10psi or a 383 with 15psi which will have more horsepower??? Look at a compressor map, at a given efficiency turbos flow more cfm if you are running a higher boost level. It's all about making the parts work togther. If you can make a high reving 355ci you might be better off. Less low end torque, but more high end horsepower. It's all about a goal and making things work togther.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
If you're looking for good low end torque you might want to go with a big cube motor with a smaller a/r on the turbone housings of the turbos. The engine will give you a big jump off the line and then the turbos should spool up quick adn give you loads of midrange torque.
Even if you stick with a 396 and build a cam for torque, you should have plenty of low end umph. And then you'll have the turbos to make the upper end.
Even if you stick with a 396 and build a cam for torque, you should have plenty of low end umph. And then you'll have the turbos to make the upper end.
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (Blown67427)
You can make 1200 hp out of 4 cylinders now days. It all depends on your budget, and how reliable you want to make it.
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
If money isn't an issue, why not buy a spare block, build the engine, start making the headers. And still drive the vette around. Once you have everything good to go, do an engine swap with the turbos, do some final tweeking and you'll be good to go.
I've spent the last 6 months driving around my "other car" and it sucked. Minimum down time is key to any project :yesnod:
I've spent the last 6 months driving around my "other car" and it sucked. Minimum down time is key to any project :yesnod:
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
After i buy my second car this weekend i will be down 2 something like $10,000 which means anything i can do 2 save money is going 2 happen. I have the plan that i will built the block and then have that reinstall into the car and drive it round untill i get enough money 2 buy all the items for the turbo setup
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
So you are making this a two step process
1.) build engine for future needs
2.) add turbo kit tor abnoxiously high horsepower
If that's the order you want to do it in then I'd concentrate on the rebuild first. As long as you make it low compression then you can add any type of forced induction you want later. Keeping your options open. Not to mention the extra cubes are really fun :D
1.) build engine for future needs
2.) add turbo kit tor abnoxiously high horsepower
If that's the order you want to do it in then I'd concentrate on the rebuild first. As long as you make it low compression then you can add any type of forced induction you want later. Keeping your options open. Not to mention the extra cubes are really fun :D
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
Hey again,
I was thinking about something. the turbo vette will most likly become a show car therefore i will be using stainless_steal for all piping but also do u think it would be possable 2 move the 2 turbos upwards, so they stick out of the hood about 1 to 5cm . I know it doesnt do anything for power kind of ricer mod, i think it would look nice do u think it is possable? (would it in anyway result is lost of power ?)
Thanks
I was thinking about something. the turbo vette will most likly become a show car therefore i will be using stainless_steal for all piping but also do u think it would be possable 2 move the 2 turbos upwards, so they stick out of the hood about 1 to 5cm . I know it doesnt do anything for power kind of ricer mod, i think it would look nice do u think it is possable? (would it in anyway result is lost of power ?)
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (Soulja_350)
it can be done, actually the piping might be easier because you can just make it directly above the header if you do it right. And still keep the a/c then. Check out http://www.fasttrackperformance.com and see the TT buick. I don't like the look, but some people do.
[Modified by mn_vette, 5:50 PM 10/20/2003]
[Modified by mn_vette, 5:50 PM 10/20/2003]
Instructor
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From: Algonquin IL
Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
You might want to check out this site also. They make custom kits for a lot of different cars. They say that a kit for your car will be available in Jan. Just something to look at. http://www. turbochargedpower.com
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (matszr1)
There's been rumors of turbo kits for a long time. Until I actually see one then I'll believe it. A bunch of companies have tried, but no one has actually done it.
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Racer
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Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
There's been rumors of turbo kits for a long time. Until I actually see one then I'll believe it. A bunch of companies have tried, but no one has actually done it.
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From: Ne
Re: Turbo Project (mn_vette)
HP Performance Turbo is starting on my '85 on November 10th. Mine will be a custom system from which they build the kit. The kits will be available in January about the same time my car is done. In all my discussion with them they have been professional and knowledgable. Can't wait for mine to be done. If anyone is interested I will let you know the results.
Melting Slicks
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From: Jackson MI
Re: Turbo Project (evltwin)
I've talked to them as well, sound very knowledgeable in turbo stuff. I'd be very interested to see what they do. Very intrested if they are doing an LT1 as well.