C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Big Cube SBC Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:55 AM
  #1  
ROME's Avatar
ROME
Thread Starter
Racer
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 473
Likes: 8
From: Shreveport LA
Default Big Cube SBC Questions

I was thinking today about the SuperRam/AFR setup with a large cubic inch Small Block Chevy - flow qualities in particular.

In an earlier thread a few guys were discussing the fact that the SuperRam should flow a slightly greater cfm ratio of air in relation to the heads for things to operate at their most efficient levels.

The point was made that the AFR 190 or 195 heads were probably best matched with the SuperRam because of the flow numbers available from that intake (260-300 cfm).

My perceptions probably need honing, but I'm thinking that a large cubic inch small block such as a 427 would be best suited by a pair of the larger AFR heads such as 215's or 225's. How does this factor reflect against the available flow from the SuperRam intake? Is this simply the wrong intake for this application, or are there other factors that I'm not taking into consideration? TIA!
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 04:44 AM
  #2  
pablocruise's Avatar
pablocruise
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 8,183
Likes: 3
From: Santa Maria, CA
Default Re: Big Cube SBC Questions (ROME)

I too would like to know!
I have a 350 block being bored .060 over + stroker recip assy =ing 396 CID
AFR 210's sitting here
and a superram also sitting here. Unported.
I have a 242/248 .050 110lsa cam sitting here too.
Too much lift/head/cid for the unported SR?
Not sure if I should assemble all these together.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:39 AM
  #3  
LD85's Avatar
LD85
Race Director
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,772
Likes: 17
From: Indianapolis IN
Default Re: Big Cube SBC Questions (89 Paul in Cal)

Here are flow numbers that I have copied from previous posts on the CF.

Here goes (peak numbers without head attached; 28" Hg):

TPI, stock base, stock runners, 48MM - 185 cfm
TPI, Accel base, large tubes, lots of porting, 52MM - 212 cfm
TPI, Accel base (cheater), large tubes, lots of porting, 52MM - 226 cfm

SR with unported Edelbrock base, 52MM - 224 cfm
SR with unported Accel base, 52MM - 233 cfm
SR with heavily massaged E base, mild port runners, 58MM - 256 cfm
SR with heavily massaged A base, mild port runners, 58MM - 259 cfm
SR with heavily massaged A base, massive work throughout - 278 cfm

stock MRII with 1204 (AFR 195) ports, 58MM - 265 cfm
stock MRII with 1206 (AFR 220) ports, 58MM - 281 cfm
MRII clean-up, 1206 ports, 58MM - 292 cfm
MRII cut, weld, port, ect, 58MM - 321 cfm
MRII (same as above with mono blade) - 322 cfm

My heads flowed 308 cfm @ 0.550" lift, so I felt I had gone far enough with the intake. Yes, you are correct that a good ROT for NA applications is 15% more flow from the intake than the heads. Very few FI intakes flow to that level, but the better ones work well with the factory type D-ports.

Lessons:
- Cheater intakes (connected cylinders) work well on very mild combos. Higher flows yield lean cylinders in real world apps.
- Flows above 230 seem to benefit from a 58MM TB.
- The monoblade (MB) seemed to show no appreciable difference at the 320 cfm level. I would suspect that it would show gains at higher levels.

My new heads (18°, 2.18" intake, 1.68" exhaust) flow in the 380 cfm range. Imagine the intake flow required to support them. (Sheetmetal w/ MB)

Good Luck,
Aaron
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Big Cube SBC Questions





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:25 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE