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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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I've done a search but I can't find the post on that really expensive coolant that some people are using. If I reimber right it was about $50 to do a C4. It was to be used straight with no water added. Someone swore by it. Does anyone recall the name of it and and does anyone have any experience with it?? :chevy
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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I think you're thinking about "Dexcool"...the orange stuff. And unless you have a 96-03, i wouldn't suggest it. It's great stuff...but will deteriorate the water pump seals in "older" vettes MUCH faster than the green stuff. THIS i learned from experiance! :eek:
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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I think you're thinking about "Dexcool"...the orange stuff. And unless you have a 96-03, i wouldn't suggest it. It's great stuff...but will deteriorate the water pump seals in "older" vettes MUCH faster than the green stuff. THIS i learned from experiance! :eek:
:iagree: Jimbo is right on. If it didn't come with Dexcool, don't go to it. What works best in our "older" C4s, 95 and older, is the 50 50 mix with the green stuff and distilled water. It's that simple. :cheers:
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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No it wasn't Dexcool. More of a high performance type product.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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No it wasn't Dexcool. More of a high performance type product.
There are a number of EXPENSIVE coolant "additives" that some folks swear by that claim lower operating temperatures, more effecient heat transfer, longer coolant life, reduced corrosion, etc...

I used one of these products in the '79 (at $29/16oz can) and was NOT impressed.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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I used to have a really bad temp. problem with my 91 L-98. As most of us know, the first thing to do Is to clean the road crap off the exterior of your radiator. I now fill my radiator ( In the summer only ) with 1 gallon of regular coolant, 2 botles of "water wetter" ( found In most speed shops ) and fill the rest with plain water. Sitting In traffic with the a/c on, my radiator temp stays around 170-180 :cool:
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Were you thinking of Evans Coolant?
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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did 50/50 mix of AF and Distilled water, drew off a gal, added 2 bottles of watter wetter and topped off with distilled water,,, runs 190's now....even in las vegas...
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I run 50/50 water/antifreeze. One bottle of Water Wetter later average temps dropped 10-15 degrees.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Yes, that is the stuff. $25 per gallon and you have to use a 7lb or no pressure cap, maybe a few more things too. Is it as good as they say? I road race my car in Florida at Sebring and by the end of a 40 minute session I am about 235 degrees. Too hot for me. I know that in the end I will probably end up buying a $500 aluminim radiator but this Evans seems like a possable alternative. Could someone tell us about there Evans experience pro or con. I am going to start another subject under Evan Coolant. Those with experience please respond here or there. :chevy :chevy :chevy
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Default Re: "Special" coolant (Skipzoom)

...by the end of a 40 minute session I am about 235 degrees. Too hot for me.
I dunno...235° after an extended hard run with a stock chip (or programming), stock water pump, radiator and thermostat...sounds 'bout right!
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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You are probably right but I'm looking at it like this, I've got a 160 degree thermostat in the car and a chip from TPIS that is programed for that temp. I can feel the car loosing power as the temp climbs higher and higher. What is it that all the tuners say, lower temps mean more power. I guess in a perfect world I would be driving around Sebring in August and be running 160 degrees all day long. Power is good. :chevy :chevy :chevy
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I've got a 160 degree thermostat in the car and a chip from TPIS that is programed for that temp...
Okie-Dokie! You're right! With a 160 stat and a chip...235 is a little high. I also have a 160 and reprogram, and after an extended hard run i MIGHT push 220F if it a warm summer day!
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Default Re: "Special" coolant (Skipzoom)

Just remember guys, after the thermostat is open, either a 160 or a 195, it's up to the radiator, coolant, airflow across the fins and the flow of the coolant (pump). The 160 will only start the flow sooner.
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Just remember guys, after the thermostat is open, either a 160 or a 195, it's up to the radiator, coolant, airflow across the fins and the flow of the coolant (pump). The 160 will only start the flow sooner.
That's true Tom...but because it starts flowing sooner the temps don't climb as high 'cause it don't have as much heat to remove...least that's what i've seen.

It's sorta like spitin' on a match or a campfire to try'n put it out :D


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I'll do battle with you at the next Shroom :boxing How's your project going?
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I'll do battle with you at the next Shroom :boxing How's your project going?
:lol: Naw....i'll pass. I'd hate to get mah **** kicked by an ol'man! :jester

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Default Re: "Special" coolant (Skipzoom)

Interesting article here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=2264

According to this, water is 50% more efficient at conducting heat than glycol.
Just changing your glycol/water ratio might cure your problems.
Good Luck, let us know how it turns out.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 06:56 AM
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That's a good piece of info. from the Zerex guy. As far as Evans is concerned I'm still waiting on their call. Their tech Dave was busy when I called Monday. Back to the Zerex guy, he says that you loose 25% of your heat transfering properties when you add coolant 50/50 to plain water. I guess the point is that with the right type of coolant in the radiator you could GAIN 25%. I think this is exactly what the Evans people are after. I'll keep you posted. :sleep: Waiting for Dave to call.
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