86 almost done
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Drifting
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86 almost done
Well I have it running now, but I still need to install the intercooler. I do have some video of it running if anyone knows how to host it. So what do you guys think?
[Modified by snaketr, 9:33 PM 12/2/2003]
[Modified by snaketr, 9:35 PM 12/2/2003]
[Modified by snaketr, 9:33 PM 12/2/2003]
[Modified by snaketr, 9:35 PM 12/2/2003]
Drifting
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From: Little Rock Arkansas
Re: 86 almost done (86PACER)
Relocate your battery to the rear (I put them in the pass. side storage compartment) and fabricate some ducting to move your air filter to where the battery was...You're killing a lot of power and possibly causing some detonation problems by having the air cleaner grab hot air from right on top of the headers...
-Jeb
-Jeb
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Drifting
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Re: 86 almost done (FLVetteNut)
Thanks for the complements everyone, Jburnett actually we doing something similiar, I just had the filter on it to start it. I am running a 3.5 inch tube that will run up front and pick up fresh air that comes through the radiator. I also have an intercooler to install so it's not done yet but it is running.
Justin
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Justin
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From: Hockessin DE
Re: 86 almost done (jburnett)
Relocate your battery to the rear (I put them in the pass. side storage compartment) and fabricate some ducting to move your air filter to where the battery was...You're killing a lot of power and possibly causing some detonation problems by having the air cleaner grab hot air from right on top of the headers...
-Jeb
-Jeb
BTW- Nice vette! I can't wat until I get boost!
[Modified by Red91Vette, 3:38 AM 12/4/2003]
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Re: 86 almost done (Red91Vette)
Sorry I could not elaborate earlier about where to locate the filter. The side panel seems like a good place but it is not. There is actually a low pressure created there and it was engineered to be this way to remove air&heat from the engine bay. As the air travels around the car it is moving past the vent so fast that it creates a low pressure. There is a good descusion about this if you read the article on the Sledgehammer. That is where the filters were located for the T04B turbos. The car could barely break the 200 mph zone. They noticed during video that while it was raining the water was actually coming out of the vent instead of when it should have also been sucked in. They had to make modifications to the panel in order to make it work. That is why my filter is going to be located in the front of the car, where it is now was just to start the car, I agree where it is now is the worse place it could be if it were going to stay there.
Justin
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Re: 86 almost done (snaketr)
I have read many articles on the Sledgehammer, but never knew that. Is there anywhere I can find pictures and the documentation of what they did to fix it? I wonder where would be the best place to fit the filter if you can't put it in front of the car. How would you put the filter up front when the intake side of the procharger is facing towards the back of the car? A 180 degree turn will kill a lot of air flow don't you think?
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Re: 86 almost done (Red91Vette)
I just saw it on the video they had on it. They actually had to fabricate some side panels with lips in the back of of it. You are correct we are running a 3 1/2" tube from the back of the SC to the front of the car. No a 180 degree bend is not going to affect the flow at all. They will all be smooth radius bends to they will flow very well.
Justin
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Re: 86 almost done (Baldturbofreak)
That is true, but the way the tube is routed it is going to pick up fresh air almost like a ram effect. This way will work much better than picking air up at the side cover or just off the back of the SC.
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Re: 86 almost done (snaketr)
Well sounds like you have it all planned out, can't wait to see what it loos like when your done, and some timeslips! Good luck! I wish I could find a picture of the calloway set up, I wat a twin turbo set up really bad! There is a kit coming out for our car jan. hopefully.
Drifting
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From: Medina OH
Re: 86 almost done (jburnett)
Does anyone have a schematic for getting cooler air to the blower filter???? I thought the same thing with moving the battery -- then costructing some duct work to get air to the blower filter. This does not look like the easiest of fabrication.... :confused: I've also toyed around with constructing a carbon fiber heat shield to place betwwen the blower and the engine. Has anyone ever tried this?
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From: Russellville TN
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Re: 86 almost done (snaketr)
There is a way around your air filter problem. Leave it the way you have it. I built an intercooler and mounted it flush with the bottom of the radiator baffle. Next I cut a hole in the lower baffle and built a small air dam to ensure flow through my intercooler. Works like a champ! The piping is 3 inch from the supercharger to the throttle body. I lowered my intake temp below 90*.
You'll find out using an EGT probe that your EGT's will be too high, forcing you to use lots of fuel to keep the engine combustion cooler if you don't use some method of cooling down the intake charge.
Cheers,
Frank :flag
[Modified by Corvette86, 9:16 PM 12/14/2003]
You'll find out using an EGT probe that your EGT's will be too high, forcing you to use lots of fuel to keep the engine combustion cooler if you don't use some method of cooling down the intake charge.
Cheers,
Frank :flag
[Modified by Corvette86, 9:16 PM 12/14/2003]
